Deposit return scheme (recycling)

People who "don't get" the complaints about the scheme - well that's a reflection of their only limited experience. Your mileage may vary, or the level of inconvenience the scheme causes may vary.

Remember it needs to get to 90%. It isn't going to get to that if it just suits people who drive and so their main shopping in a big supermarket with RVMs.

Cases in point:

You could have bought them online and that's where you do your main shopping. Your local shops are exempt. What do you do then?

I go to the shops on foot or bike or bus. I don't know if the machine is working. I get to the shop, it is out of order. Sometimes it is out of order for hours at a time. What do I do with my empties now? I was planning on bringing home the new shopping in those bags. As suggested on the thread, there should be a realtime list of machines by status.

Or, someone who does their shopping in a place which does not have a return point. The size of the exemptions means there are many places with no return point in walking distance, or in the village where they do their shopping. What do they do?

The size exemption should be reduced to its original proposed limit of 150 square metres OR councils should be providing RVMs in locations not served by an RVM and issuing a voucher redeemable in any store selling Re-turn items.

Mine collects glass 4 times a year.

 I would like to see glass included in our scheme, and maybe that is in the planning

Why?

Our glass recycling rates are exceeding our targets.

Why would you want to shove a big fat expensive inconvenient mess on top of that and annoy the fúck out of everyone further, when there is absolutely no need?

I really don't get the complaints about the scheme.

That is because you have based your whole opinion on the scheme by your own limited experience, personal circumstances and routines.

Not everyone is you.

Okay, pin your colours to the mast.

At what date do you think Return will publish figures that give some level of detail on the trend of the scheme - and stop using the "Commercially Sensitive" spiel?

At what date do you anticipate we'll hit the ninety percent target?

If we don't hit the target within 12 months (from June 24) would you deem the scheme a failure? If not, what is an acceptable figure after 12 months and how much longer should the scheme take to get to ninety percent.

Even if we got it up a few percent, every little helps. Deposit schemes are the way to achieve that. Most of the compliant will continue, apart from the high minded who need to make a protest. I have not seen much of it myself, in my rare trips to bottle banks, but Co Councils have notices about not dumping at these facilities. They can be full, and less likely to get cleared on Sundays and Bank Holidays.

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/532896/kildare-people-warned-not-to-dump-empty-bottles-and-cans-at-recycling-sites.html

But it is Comercially sensitive.

If they publish it they will look stupid and they are very sensitive about that sort of thing.

Most of the compliant will continue

So some won't.

Brilliant scheme their chief, make people less compliant.

You should send a CV into Re-Turn, that's the type of joined up thinking they require.

Just seen a notification as a number of machines had been reported as faulty in rejecting items with logos and changed to another make of machine as with so many customer complaints.

no offence taken. 👍

Sent SIL to return machine with 63 cans/bottles that were stinking up utility room, first 2 machines out of order at Lidl, he drove to Tesco,62 containers accepted and cash redeemed at checkout, total was 9 euro odd.

He had to drive approx 5km in traffic and time wasted was c.45 mins.No good for man or the environment.

The electorate need to remember this fiasco of a bottle TAX when the green party knock at your doors looking for your vote, tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine and remember they are not the harmless hippy types we think they are, dont give them any vote transfers or they may sneak in again.Keep them out.

62 x €0.15 = €9.30, so you had no big ones. I noticed something odd while out walking and cycling on the roads. By far the most common dumped containers are the little 250 ml Red Bull and Boost cans. Both of these describe themselves as Energy Drinks. I wouldn't let any of them into my house to stink out the place.

The bill for plastic/ bottle tax whatever should be borne by the retailer, if they need to raise every bottle 1cent so be it.

However 15 or 25 cent and most people not able to return, it's a consumer tax.

And now, the farce that state agencies are also paying a commercial tax

https://www.96fm.ie/news/96fm-news-and-sport/hse-could-lose-over-a-million-euro-a-year-due-to-deposit-return-scheme/

the machine we have in work is driving me mental, we're luckily not a hugely popular shop for it, but i'd say ever second users, i have to be called to fix the machine. which basically is me opening & taking out the can, turning on & off the machine etc. think ours is similar to dealz which i've seen other critic here.

also have to say, while i wouldn't shame anyone for doing what they can for the extra bit of money. have seen quite a few homeless folks come in with a bag of can/bottles clearly rooted out from rubbish bins. then the same hands being used to press the buttons. not very hygienic.