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The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It addresses it in Leinster at least. They've clearly shown they shouldn't be in Leinster so let's start there. If they lose the odd AI it could still remain exciting. But if they go and with 7 or 8 of the next 10 AI it's going to do a lot of damage.

    I also think Dublin as it is playing in Munster, Connaught then Ulster year after year would bring excitement and I feel they wouldn't win those provincials every year either. Leinster teams would improve again with the possibility of success 3 out of 4 years so when Dublin do return they'd be a little more competitive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's an argument to do away with Provinces...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Seems like winning is a problem only if Dublin do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    What you really mean is YOU had no issue with Kilkenny winning because it was hurling and your own county could keep on winning in football with their unfair advantages.

    amazingly when Dublin are the main obstacle to a Kerry hegemony you want them hobbled but won’t countenance discussion of balancing the field in a way that might reigns Kerry’s advantages in

    what a surprise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Yeah - the thing with the GAA is that it has so many different objectives, and sometimes these may be competing - Kilkenny hurling would be an example; its amazing, its brutal for Kilkenny football though, but its still amazing what that county does and it contributes enormously to the GAA in an overall sense. But is it fair it doesnt field a Senior football team….. how do you square that circle.

    The splitting Dublin thing is similar - Dublins dominance is a problem, but is it that much of a problem that the GAA would consider such a nuclear option……

    Time will tell. But we are nowhere near that now.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,101 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Mod Note

    Both @dunnerc and @gaffer91 have been Threadbanned for the month of May.

    This thread has gone Round and Round in Circles on Several occasions previously, with a few posters Repeating the same point Ad Nauseam.

    At the end of the month, the Thread might have died off or sprouted a few new thoughts to develop going forward.

    The Mods were previously asked to Close the thread fue to the repetiveness of comments, this is an attempt to see is it worth keeping open.

    Any issues, PM Only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    For better or worse, there's a lot of allegiance to local club and county. You'd imagine those historic rivalries would be destroyed if it was reorganized.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭jack67


    Well thank god for that , why wait ? please close this sham of an anti Dublin thread down now .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Actually true - its the ultimate defeat for Meath to say ye are now so weak compared to Dublin - who for many years ye had the better of - that we would say not only are you unable to beat them now, but it is not foreseeable that you would ever be able to beat them again, with the only fair outcome left being to split Dublin.

    For a Meath person, having to split Dublin is the ultimate defeat…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Rather than splitting counties, maybe a US type draft system should be considered.

    Identify the best young players in the country and then allow the worst counties have their pick of the best young players.

    This would be radical, but radical steps are needed at this stage.

    And before someone says its a daft idea, its no more daft than splitting counties.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Yes were are. It is a problem now, look at the attendance last weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Sorry, but low attendances at a football match is 100% not a crisis that warrants splitting a County in 2 or 3 or 4.

    Apart from anything else - from a financial POV there is a sell-out rugby match on this weekend, three Bruce Springsteen concerts in May, AC/DC later in the year as well as all the QF Gaa matches that will sell well.

    So financially, I dont think its a massive issue if attendances are low. Its not like they are any higher anywhere else in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Incidentally - GAA is missing a trick.

    The LGFA Leinster Final Dublin vs Meath is on at 11.45am on May 12th as a pre-cursor to the mens game.

    I'd have have a fairly strong view that the LGFA game should be the main event. Two of the top 4 teams in country, last 2 all Ireland champions, have already played to a huge crowd in a league match in Navan earlier in the year.

    11.45am is a joke time for a throw in for a big game like this and the GAA are almost asking to be accused of disrespect.

    Missed opportunity….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭celt262


    It's not the GAA's responsibility to promote another organisations games. The Lenister Council are not going to have there showcase game of the year playing second fiddle to a LGFA game and rightly so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    So we should not split Dublin because a lot of people like Bruce Springsteen? I have to admire your ingenuity in defending the indefensible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Maybe a suggestion would be open it at certain stages of the year. Let's say at the Leinster semi final stage until Dublin either win or lose the AI?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭jack67


    Dublin should not be split full stop . Are you another hiding Kerry man , dreaming of a return to Kerry domination ?

    As i mentioned earlier please close this sham of an anti Dublin thread down now .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    wow way to misrepresent the posters point. Their point is still far more valid than your detailed technical argument that we shouldn’t split Kerry because “they’re just good”
    (while ignoring in every way responding to the century of unfair advantages that other posters have catalogued against Kerry)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I'd have to agree.

    In an honest debate about the Dominance of Dublin GAA - there are about 7 or 8 points to be made, on either side.

    These have now been said.

    And been said again, and again, and again.

    This thread says a lot more about peoples addiction to social media (myself included) than it does about the GAA - that people keep coming back to repeat the same points over and over and over, just so that they can get a response.

    Now, let me duck for cover while AN OTHER poster comes back to tell me I'm a clown. (And repeat).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yeah and it looks like most fans Dublin included have joined me in boycotting the Leinster championship. As fans get out of the habit they'll realise they're happier elsewhere. Waste of money and time going to support a Leinster county in the same provincial as Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    Unfortunately you are correct. The Leinster Championship is dead as a competition. I don't believe it'll ever be fixed now. I lay the blame solely at the door of the GAA.

    Football in all the other counties has been destroyed. Look at the likes of Kildare - a home game this weekend in Hawkfield. A capacity of about 1k. The once great Meath a shell of their former selves. It genuinely makes be sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭munster87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Paltry crowd at the final today. Is that 18 in 19 wins?

    I see the Dublin ladies hammered Meath as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    it will , it wont be any more professional then today the money is not there , the rugby provinces tried it but had to quickly revert to provinces , welsh rugby and Scottish rugby has struggled big time since professional club rugby took over as have a few league of ireland teams that went pro and had to go back , it will never reach that stage the money is just not there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    be honest that was a really good final 30 40 k at the game galway wasnt sold out last week and it was just over 20k , louth were excellent today , tommy durnin , sam mulroy are top drawer footballers and if they continue should be all star nominations if they continue on that foot

    con o'callaghan and the likes of brian fenton were at full tilt today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    how are welsh clubs and Scottish clubs struggling? Like exactly? Because they’ve existed for over 25 years so how can they struggle for that long and not go out of business? How are they keeping afloat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    23k showed up not 30/40k and the womens Leinster final was on also. Dublin friend of mine said Louth parked the bus and dublin were not arsed.

    There was nearly double the crowd at a Munster hurling round robin game in cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    In fairness - if I was Louth I would have gone for 90% possession, just kicked the ball around the back - every minute they have the ball is another minute that Dublin dont score. Also - they've probably done more than any other team to counter Cluxton kick outs - by not contesting them in any way.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Billy_the_Kid
    Master


    Scotland originally had four professional teams like Ireland - two have folded already (The Borders and Caledonia). The Welsh regions (and Scottish) are largely subsidised by the money generated from the 6 nations and international games, the GAA does not have this international element to fund professionalism.



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