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Newstalk: Off The Ball

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Musicrules




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Adrian put it well this morning in the breakfast show.

    FAI say they have a new man coming in at beginning of April.

    if this is true, the new man comes in and these friendlies are irrelevant.

    if this is not true, O’Shea gets the job because there is literally nobody else. So these friendlies are irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Doubt O'Shea would be considered at all for it.

    Surely the case of Staunton would be enough to steer clear.

    They are even left backs who won the Top Flight English League!

    Not that there's many Klopp's out there but get in someone with a bit of experience in management at least.

    It's not a very exciting role though to be fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    O Shea passed the test on Saturday but failed last night. He had no ideas on how to change things. I didn't see Brian Kerr with him so it was Whelan and McCarthy giving advice. After last night I think we have to look past O Shea. Poyet doesn't seem like the greatest option either though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    There's the Maradona song again. Do they use it much? That dates way back to when Second Captains were on OTB.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,014 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It will be interesting to hear/see how OTB spin a new manager. Will there be constant comparisons to Stephen Kenny? (Who they heavily backed - to the point of farce)

    Will they now be mentioning the poor player pool if Ireland lose/perform poorly, or the players Stephen Kenny "blooded" if Ireland win/do well? As a justification of their previous narrative?

    I wonder will OTB will drop the dream of playing football the "right way" / philosophical notions? And instead just be pleased if the next manager gets a bit of structure, urgency and energy back to Irish football? Basically what Irish players are naturally good at, the workrate and effort.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Yesterday’s sports news going out 24 hours late in the 4.00pm bulletin there, sloppy stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭shockframe


    OTB's backing of Kenny is sort of like Dunphy defending Keane 20 years ago.

    It took about 2 to 3 games to figure out Kenny wasn't up to scratch.

    If they want to restore credibility on this they would do well to forget about his reign and focus in on the merits of whoever gets it.

    I'd hope it wont be O'Shea.

    Not just because it could be Stan Mk II but he's also a likeable enough lad and really our last major player at the very highest level.

    I'd hate for his reputation to be threatened if it went badly for him over Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,567 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Last Friday on the Pat Kenny show weekend sport preview, the OTB person spent more time talking about the women's rugby six nations game than the entire weekend GAA action. I was wondering is this indicative of what the public want to hear now?

    Listening to the weekend sports review now the final slot is to talk as quickly as possible about that rugby game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    that’s what the woke goys in the D4tress like to talk about these days not bog ball or stick fighting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭fire_man


    They will be making excuses now for womens teams.Too much talk about them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    they probably have launched yet another podcast for the W6N



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Or they were covering a minority sport in a timeslot that would get some attraction because they know that the bigger sports get plenty of coverage all the time anyway?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was this the person that sounds like a transition year student? That's a charitable box ticking slot if ever there was one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    They produce a lot of content.

    It’s not like covering minority sports comes at the expense of the others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    good for them, i have no issue with them covering women's sports, they have plenty of time to do it.

    I just see everything they do these days in a cynical way - they launched a F1 podcast having literally done nothing on the sport in years mon-fri but just to cash in on Drive to Survive. There's a great motorsports scene in ireland they could do a pod on or god forbid mention on the radio show. Also cycling, not a flicker even though we have pros fighting in the classics and two in the tour of turkey this week, and the Ras coming soon as well.

    They have plenty of things to chose from and plenty of time but for me its not that they're doing "women's Rugby/Soccer/GAA" it just more Rugby/Soccer/GAA.



  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭17togo


    That's what made them so good years ago. They'd cover sports that you wouldn't normally have had coverage on other sports bulletins or shows. That's back when the Second Captains lads were involved so probably their influence?! I remember I used to time my drive into work to listen to them in peace and quiet in the car, now I don't even bother turning them on, just catch glimpses of them on different social media platforms. Do love listening to the hurling pod though. Those lads could nearly go out on their own now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I wonder how that works, going out on their own.

    It’s a much easier sell to pay €10 per month for lots of content every day, basically there’s always something to listen to all year round.

    Hurling pod is only twice a week, and I don’t think they even have one during the inter county close season. Or even during the league, when it’s pointless enough trying to analyze anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Not sure about the hurling. Richie hogan is a dose to listen too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭17togo


    Dont they have a football pod aswell with the same host?! Think I've seen one, but maybe not. So that would get them a couple of more episodes during the week. I just think they'd be good enough to hold their own. Skehill is a bit mad in a good way I think, and with Paul Murphy I find their analysis quiet good. There's more to it than the general 'banter' that goes on with the main otb shows.

    Its still unknown how the €10 plan has faired, but I'd imagine not very well. Quality not quantity is a better way to go, like second captains.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Wooly Parkinson has done really well since going out on his own from SportJoe with his new show Smaller Fish. Several hurling and football podcasts a week. Currently has 4,905 subscribers paying €5 per month

    Shows there is a market for just GAA content if done right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Happened to be in car Saturday for the lunchtime panel talking about their favourite sports documentaries, is it just me or does that Roy Curtis fella go to unnecessary lengths to sound articulate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭spakman


    Yes, same with his writing - completely over the top



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    If the podcast forum is anything to go by then its not going well at all - SC topic is on page 256 and there isn't an OTB Pod topic at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Had to turn it off. He was painful to listen to. He was trying way too hard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    He tries to model himself on Con Houlihan. That's it, in a nutshell. He was in my class all the way through secondary school. He was alright.



  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭bingobango12


    The woke goys in the D4tress sold out a semi final in your stadium in a day and a half. The bog ball/stick fighting association (as you call it) got 21k in to watch 4 teams in their semi final last weekend. There might be a thing or two to be learned from the goys for the GAA.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    have they dropped some pods? Is there no Monday Night rugby anymore?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    There was rugby on tonight, think it was just a case they'd both hurling and football on Monday after a good few high profile games at the weekend whereas it was just URC on for rugby.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,567 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    The Irish women's rugby team sold out Croke Park. Fait play to them, that went totally over my head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Maybe now the penny will drop for the GAA: games without jeopardy don't excite the masses. Knockout games is where it's at



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,140 ✭✭✭bren2001


    There was jeopardy, it was knockout. Its just a pointless competition nobody cares about.

    There was 37k at Cork v Clare and 34k at Limerick v Tipp. There's nothing to be learned from rugby, they sold out an ERC SF, the GAA will pack out Croke Park later in the year (not that this was your point). To compare the ERC SF to a Leinster SF is ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    It wasn't knockout. All teams participating are still involved in the championship

    The competition is way beyond it's sell by date but the fact that there is a safety net definitely impacts on the attendance

    The Munster Hurling championship is an outlier, primarily based on the closeness in standard of the participants as well as the standard of the games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,140 ✭✭✭bren2001


    The Leinster championship isn't the All Ireland Championship. I think you'll find both Kildare and Offaly are out of the Leinster Championship after losing. They are also out of the All Ireland Championship and in the Tailteann Cup. If they won their games, they'd qualify for the All Ireland Championship. That's jeopardy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,828 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Cork play 2 or 3 home championship games a year and can't sell out Páirc Uí Chaoimh. There is something very odd to me that with the relatively small number of home games a county gets in a year (Cork had 2 home league games and 2 home championship games) that they never sell out anymore.

    Limerick didn't play a league match in Limerick this year, their first home game was in Championship against Tipp the weekend just gone and they didn't sell out.

    The same is seen in the football codes. GAA has a problem surely?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Some unfair comparisons being made. GAA capacities are designed to cater for one-off finals at a maximum, Gaelic grounds could fit 25% of the Limerick population at one time, Monaghan could fit 70% of theirs.

    Rugby is less tribal with just the four teams, catering to much larger support bases. Leinster riding a wave at the minute with a massive population in a competition played by French and Irish clubs (*England don't seem to care from what I read on the outside), meanwhile in the England you've also got top clubs closing their doors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,140 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I do think the GAA has an issue with declining attendances but comparing a Leinster SF to an ERC SF and saying the GAA could learn a lesson or two is a deluded argument.

    Páirc Uí Chaoimh is a 45,000 seater stadium, I wouldn't expect that to be sold out outside of a final. The Gaelic Grounds is a 44k seater stadium. I think selling large stadia like that out is hard. There was very good numbers at the Munster Hurling last week. Healthy numbers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Anyone hear Kenny Cunningham last night on OTB?

    He had a head cold by the sounds of it, but I have never heard someone being so rude and noisy on the radio before, it was shocking. He snorted and sniffed his way through the bit I heard, pulling snot constantly up his nose. And it was so obvious, often stopping mid sentence to do a huge, noisy sniff.

    Not sure why the sound person or producer didn't tell him to go and blow his nose during one of his breaks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Heard that. It was absoluting disgusting. Shocking that it wasn't addressed and he just carried on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    No surprise there. Loves the sound of his own voice



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    ger gilroy is a serious dose! Trying too hard to be talk sport! He surely realises talk sport is thrash….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You should never aspire to be like talk sport, it's awful quality radio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,618 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He's marmite.

    Talks a lot of sense at times, but really loves the sound of his own voice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭left_hander


    Was listening to A Slight Tangent, I know it was mentioned before but yer man loves the sound of a snooker referee counting the score? WTF is the story there? I watched the snooker this week and failed to see the attraction.

    The way he said it it sounded was like it was a fetish for him………..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Astartes


    It's bottom of the barrel stuff but it's what sells, unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    I find that fella Arthur seems to very little interest in sport for someone works in the sector, seems to only follow soccer and intercounty GAA, 1 day club GAA came up in conversation just said straight out he's no interest in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Jordan was excellent around the Super League time but can be hit and miss, some awful fools on Talksport like Jason Cundy and Jamie O'Hara.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Zymurgist


    O’Hara and Cundy are dreadful, two clowns shouting at each other. YouTube recommended a video of theirs to me a few weeks ago, had to turn it off after about 45 seconds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Agreed. Himself and White are a pair of shock jocks. Grand in small doses.



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