The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

I certainly agree with you that addressing Kerry's unfair advantages is really the first priority. Happy to consider any number of options to deal with this.

ah this old chestnut again. The whole,” if the evidence isn’t there then the lack of any evidence also proves my point” argument

you really just want to have your cake and eat it don’t you. I’m sure when someone else starts beating Kerry you’ll find some similarly intangible, unprovable reason why they should be hobbled. Maybe it will be “Cork have too many peoplel” or “Tyrone/ Derry benefit from brexit” or some other such shite

still, at least you’ve indicated youre on board with the proposal to rotate Kerry into Leinster/Munster. That genuinely shows progress on your behalf

The evidence is there- take a look at Dublin's population. Then take a look at their funding vs everyone else. Then take a look at where all semi-finals and finals are played. This is all there for people to see. Just because a team doesn't win every year, it doesn't mean they're not unfairly advantaged- for instance, Dublin alone were always unfairly advantaged from their population. I don't mind who wins really, as long as it is done fairly- this has clearly not been the case with Dublin in recent decades so I've concluded that sadly, they need to be split. As you have a partisan bias yourself, you assume people who want to split Dublin want to do so to harm them- nothing could be further from the truth. Not only does splitting Dublin help Dublin, the reasons for it are purely out of a desire for fairness in the GAA.

Poster isn't interested in Meath and Kildare, he is only interested in preserving the unfair advantages accrued to Kerry over the decades.

Still throwing out this nonsense , Kerry are uniquely unfairly advantaged , this has been proven countless times, you are 100% only interested in Kerry end of .

Kerry are uniquely advantaged , as well you know , but pretend not to.

Oh they’re just good right……🙄

Any advantage Kerry have is deeply embedded by over a century of privilege. They have been facilitated by a weak and complaint Munster council to kill the footballing landscape in Munster. Far from having that advantage removed the more recent structure changes do nothing to limit Kerry’s advantages as seen by their consistently reaching the final while football elsewhere in Munster remains little more than a corpse, albeit one even the mourners couldn’t be arsed to pay their respects to.

This is further facilitated by significant and longstanding financial advantages (and Kerry have shown with the like of Adidas that they’ll push the system as far as they can until they’re reined in)

and the ultimate kick in the teeth is how the Munster council have compliantly allowed this over the many decades, putting the national glory of the province ahead of any semblance of fairness in Gaelic games.

and all the while compliant little cheerleaders push the narrative that everything is grand and this is just the natural order of things. If any other county dares get above their station, if any other county should figure out how to be better at getting sponsors or better (god forbid) at actually playing football those same cheerleaders will diligently troop out with their begrudgery to gerrymander things to keep the old order in place with their pathetic “split Dublin” nonsense founded, as demonstrated throughout this thread, on half truths, misinformation, misrepresentation and downright lies

It hasn't been proven because it can't be proven. Dublin, and Dublin alone, are uniquely unfairly advantaged vs everyone else. This is due to the unique combination, nature, scale and duration of advantages in population, funding and playing at home. c. 1m more people than the next most populated county, in a sport where transfers are exceedingly rare. The absolute population gap between them and the second county is larger than the gap the second county and the last. Millions more in funding from the GAA, the Irish government and their sponsors than any other county, no matter how it is measured. Playing finals and semi-finals in their home stadium, which the GAA spent millions redeveloping. It's a crazy, unfair state of affairs- that's why neutrals have no respect in Dublin's achievements over recent years, because it's obvious to anyone that they didn't come fairly. The fact you are coming on making post after post trying to dispute and divert this reality means it clearly bothers you deeply. You're making quite angry posts e.g. using words like "pathetic", "compliant little cheerleaders" etc. You want the achievements to be respected, but they can't be, because they didn't come fairly.

All I can say is that is this is not on you. You or any other Dublin supporters, or the Dublin county board, or the Dublin team, or anyone else affiliated with the GAA in Dublin, are not one bit responsible for the unfair status quo. So you don't have to feel guilty or ashamed. The blame lies with the GAA. They're who is responsible for this mess, for allowing it to develop and persist. And it's the GAA who needs to split Dublin to help the GAA in all counties.

nothing angry about my posts, I’m simply calling out hypocrisy for what it is on your and other posters parts. The fact you can ignore the shameful leg up(s) that Kerry continues to benefit from reflects badly on you, demonstrating how incapable you are of understanding a path to the fairness you claim to crave.

Dublin fans will continue to happily celebrate our success, won fairly on the field of play. The most galling thing for fans like yourself is likely to be that the reason we can be happy it’s fair, is the template for unfairness in football that Kerry created and Dublin had to navigate to get to their current position. All Dublin have done is apply the Kerry model of leveraging your brand as effectively as you can. Thankfully the Leinster council have a pathway based on this to allow others in the province do the same. It would be nice if similar concern had existed historically in Munster.

Nope Kerry have been getting a shameful leg up for over a Century , they need to be split , look at the shameful attendance of Kerry supporters , they only support there County in big numbers for the final , but its not your fault or anyone affiliated with the GAA in Kerry, so please don't feel ashamed , even if you cannot take pride in the scandalously advantaged 84 Munster titles and 38 All Irelands ,but we do need to deal with the issue , unfortunately Kerry supporters can't truly enjoy the success as we all know it has not come fairly. For the sake of the GAA in Kerry Its simply dangerous to the GAA to not split Kerry

Again, both of you, you're just focusing on outcomes. What's more important is the inputs into those outcomes. In Dublin's case, the inputs a unique combination of unfair advantages in population, funding and playing at home. That's why neutrals want Dublin to be split, not just because they are winning, but because they are doing so from an unfairly advantaged position. There is no animosity towards Dublin, just a desire to rectify the current unfairness and help the GAA in all counties.

You seem to just repeat statements almost verbatim but substitute in Kerry for Dublin. It's quite strange tbh. And doesn't make for a great discussion either!

Maybe the rest of Leinster will stop asking to play in Croker and let the Dubs travel! At this stage attendances are in danger of dropping to Munster championship levels (ok probably not quite that bad yet)

would work fine for Dublin, and remove one of the “advantages” that keep being held up. We might even get Parnell park redeveloped and hold some Leinster football games in our actual home stadium. 25-30k capacity expansion should do it. Of course given the lack of large capacity stadiums in Leinster we should probably do the same for 2 or 3 other stadia in the province

Nope Dublin is and will remain one County .

You seem to just repeat the same old nonsense for the last 12 years , its quite sad tbh, and defo doesn't make for a great discussion that's for sure !