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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭boosabum


    I see Richard symons seemed to be getting 14.9 or so when he was doing his range tests at motorway speeds a month or two ago. Granted it was terrible weather for Derek



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes I personally think the weather was the big variable here.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Also the UK motorway speed limit is 7-8 km/h less than here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭jordan191


    It makes much more sense for me to wait for the new model 3 Lubricious for the extra range…………



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You’ll most likely get less range than the LR.
    My Performance in theory only matches the RWD due to the higher power, bigger wheels etc

    On that similar run, I averages 19.4 kWh/100km in a M3P.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Dagryl


    Is there a way to reduce those nervous slow-downs on adaptive cruise control? Either through settings or driving style?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    you mean phantom braking?

    No, the cruise control is now 100% vision based, so if the car sees a shadow it doesn't like, it might drop the anchors…

    it's a pain in the a$$, though in fairness for myself I haven't experienced a lot of it for a good while now!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You can change the ACC distance before braking, if you have it set one end of the scale the car will brake late and more aggressive versus putting it at the longest distance where the braking will be less harsh, that's what I've it set at



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    Driving on the M6/M4 last night after sunset and headlights would not auto-dim to cars in front when driving with AP engaged. Its bad enough constantly flashing peeps in front when engaging AP and having to manually turn off high beams. I would happily control high beams manually, but the fact AP turns on Adaptive High Beams by default made driving a complete bollocks last night.

    Just updated this morning to 2024.8.9 from 2024.8.7 so hopefully the bug fixes include further updates to Adaptive High Beams.



  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭jordan191


    I'm only joking Gumbo, I'm currently driving an M3P for past 4 years…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    I took the plunge the other day and ordered a Model 3 Dual Motor - white, black interior and 19s. Estimated delivery says April-May which is probably wildly optimistic but I live in hope!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭keith_d99


    The auto wipers are significantly better for me after the 2024.8.9 update … they seem almost normal 😂 No manual intervention needed so far



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Brian_dub_


    they seem a little bit better but still so erratic.

    Screen completely covered, no wipers.

    No rain at all. Goes onto the 3rd fastest speed


    went through heavy rain today and it only went onto the second setting. Had to switch to manual to the highest setting to see anything.

    Autopilot on the other hand is amazing, even in the rain. I had one phantom braking and one lane change freak out when it got confused. Apart from that it made my 5 hour drive so much more relaxing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Brian_dub_


    2024.14 looks to be another great update with some new quality of life improvements and new features like hands free boot opening. Hopefully some more tweaks to the wipers…



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 ddcluracan


    I am looking at replacing the 4 tyres. So I ring a supplier who says as they quote me for a Primacy 4+ of 250 euro each, that they should have the T0 mark on them because if I'm in an accident, insurance would not cover it otherwise. Surely that's a load of crap, if the tyres are the correct speed and weight rating then you are covered, right? I have never heard this before.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




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    If I was told that I would vote with my feet. The size, load rating and speed rating are all the matters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 ddcluracan


    Which is exactly what I am doing, the fecker originally quoted 220 euro for a Primacy 4+ and after finding out it's a Tesla came out with this guff and quoted 250 euro for the T0 rated one. To my mind the only difference between the two (besides the tesla tax) is probably more sound insulation. Well I have a stereo, I'll be grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    The T0 marking simply indicates the tyre is an OE (Original Equipment) tyre (i.e. the rubber that is fitted to a car at the time of its production). Its a recommendation only.

    Is there a difference between a tyre that has been approved by a car manufacturer and a type-approved tyre?

    All tyres must comply with the legislation of the country or region where they are sold. This is not the same thing as a tyre being approved by an individual car manufacturer, which is not a mandatory process.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Dagryl


    Can't you buy tyres on openeo.ie and find someone to fit them through the website?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    We were heading into the Blanchardstown Industrial Estate earlier this week on the M4 after being out west and was too busy chatting when I passed by the Enfield SuC. I was down to just over 10% at this stage.

    Didnt want to detour to one of the SPOF chargers in Lucan or elsewhere as we were tight for time as it was. So I put into the nav the Blanchardstown ESB hub. Car reported that I wouldnt make it (-3%) based on current driving conditions i.e. 120kmh on M4 and 100kmh on M1.

    After 3.5 years of driving this car I knew I had plenty of time & distance to modify my driving and conserve battery. Tesla's Energy Meter is brilliant for this.

    • Pulled in behind a large truck on M4 doing between 85-90kmh. The slower speed and possibly a little bit of drafting assistance put me straight into green territory.
    • After the interchange on the M1, sat behind another truck doing 60kmh - perfect.
    • Heavy traffic on the M3 was at a crawl which was in my favour - just mindful to avoid coming to a complete stop.
    • Ended up arriving with over 1.2% FTW

    I reset the energy meter near Liffey Valley on the M4. Pic below is around 2/3 of the way there from that point.

    When peeps talk about range anxiety - there is no way I would ever risk this in an ICE unless I had absolutely no choice.

    TLDR: Slow and steady wins the day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Conar


    Mad fucker :-) Fair play!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,330 ✭✭✭User1998


    No reason not to do this in an ICE car. I regularly collect cars from Dublin Port with an indicated range remaining of 15km or 20km. My journey is 30km but I know that once I hit the motorway the indicated range will either increase or stay constant for the remainder of the journey due to the change in driving conditions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Model 3 price drops to €38k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,493 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Wonder will any of those lads with second hand M3s finally realise that they haven't a hope of getting their asking price now with this price drop.

    Edit: apparently the price of FSD has been reduced in the US and they've gotten rid of enhanced autopilot.

    Post edited by TitianGerm on


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭boosabum


    Would one expect a 2022 dual motor with lowish Kms now to come in at under 30k based on the these cuts to new cars. Pretty harsh on people looking to move on second hand ones but that's capitalism for ya



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cost to change into the new version will have dropped so they could reduce asking and still be paying out the same lump to get into the same car as last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭handpref


    Whose going to break the news to this lad 🤣 things escalated quickly since that ad was posted here on Friday



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Not saying the price is right but it’s a grey Dual Motor with upgraded wheels.

    It’s a different car to the basic base RWD single motor model that’s €38k.

    It’s an apples oranges comparison.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭handpref


    There are indeed different but also a bit more niche. Back in 2021 there were a more prestigious and very specific purchase. People now don’t really care as things have gone more mainstream. Add in the anti ev rhetoric in the media and a 2021 may not be very appealing.

    I was in the market for a LR, however a 2024 brand new car, albeit rwd and a couple of seconds slower for only 3k more has me thinking- I’d bet most people would opt for the new design, zero miles and longer warranty car for 3k more -

    The question is what does the price drop put these at now.

    2021 rwd

    2021 LR

    2021 P



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭innrain


    That's until you drive one. Go few pages back and see how someone changed from LR to P just for the sake of driving. Niche as you say but I think Tesla is niche in Ireland anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭pah




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Didn't expect that price drop to be honest, what is it? €3200of a drop? After the Y recently went up in price, expected the 3 not to go down.. But as said, Tesla are unpredictable.

    Anyone who has a car on order waiting on delivery will of course pay the new price. Excellent value for what is now an even better car than pre Highland.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭innrain


    Yes I think it is niche due to the sales model and non existent after sale network. And don't get me wrong we have 2 and dare to say I live in Teslaland. Maybe would be correct to say EVland but I think they are the most popular EV brand in the area. In my developement there are about 7 Teslas I know of. It is not unusual to have 3 Teslas in a row at traffic lights with at least another one on the other side. Irish drivers want a salesman who their gran gran father and all family since used to use, who can get the old car key and dispose of handing them the new shiny car with a box of chocolates and some pats on the back. I've shared many times here on boards about the misconception of Teslas being expensive. Once an Evoque driver told me she can't afford a Tesla. Not one, two I replied. Now probably 3 after this price cut.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Break80


    Hi.

    When I ordered the car in December the invoice says balance of €47,698.08 to be paid.

    The same car now on the site is €44,574.00.

    I got an email requesting payment of the higher amount on 16th of this month.

    Thankfully I didn't pay it yet.

    My question is Do I pay the lower amount now?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭boosabum


    Dont pay anything, loose the 250 and place a new order



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    They will adjust the price to the new, lower price. Ring them up or webchat to speed it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Picked up my new M3 on Friday, 3k down 48 hours later.

    Now I know why Tesla were hounding me to close last week.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    They were hounding you as the car was ready. You could have said no.

    But there’s already rumours of this price drop being an error. Seemly the VRT figure is not consistent with the actual price quoted.

    It could go back up!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    You are right, I could have said no.

    On the other hand, I was threatened with being "unmatched" if the full purchase price was not in their account within 24 hours over a week before the car was to be collected.

    I accept that prices change; lots of other Tesla owners paid a lot more for their vehicle than I did.

    But finding out about a price decrease of 3k within one working day deflates that new car bubble a little!



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    It does unfortunately. But the admin staff at local level would not have known about the price changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭allinthehead


    Happened to me last year, 4k reduction a couple of weeks after I picked mine up. 🤣

    A couple of months later they announced the new model 🙉. Over a year later and I'm over it I swear.

    ☀️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭PGE1970




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    I appreciate that and this was my first experience of dealing with Tesla.

    Overall, I found that the transaction was more about Tesla and very little about me.

    Even the pick-up on Friday was strange. I walked into a portacabin in an industrial lot and was given a cardboard wallet by a (polite) chap, containing two "credit card" keys, who told me to find my car, check it out and, if I'm happy, drive off.

    Which I did.

    This is my first EV and I'm enjoying the car so far.

    But I certainly can't say that Tesla value me as a customer and, perhaps, that's their way. I'm not a snowflake by any means, I just found the experience a bit strange!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Nadia and journalists will get publicity/a story out of this if they're on the ball

    "Tesla slashes prices heaping further depreciation misery onto existing owners!"



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes it’s a different way of doing things alright. There’s no glass show rooms and fruit bowels that you end up paying for in the price and service costs and days spent waiting around in the dealers to sort minor issues (hopefully you have none!).

    They way I explain it, is the buying process is the worse part. Just like buying a Samsung. You buy it online and then just collect. Using it should be the enjoyable part.

    Safe driving by the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭allinthehead


    It was my first new car, and first ev too.

    I enjoyed the process of buying mine, I ordered and paid for it from my couch on my phone. No shite talk at the dealer from smarmy salesmen who know less about the product than I do, no cheesy awkward photos with the car or drawn out handover when all I want to do is get on the road.

    Hi, here's the cards, five minutes looking over it, five minutes changing settings and out the gap. Perfect 👌

    ☀️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭allinthehead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I paid €50k for a base Model 3 in 2019. It's a kick in the balls but you're getting a far far better car than I had for considerably less, not even taking inflation into account there either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭baby fish


    New price has me interested but I would need to trade in my ICE..Is it worth getting a trade in price from Tesla or where is the best place to trade in a ICE car, maybe zucar? 222 car

    Anyone experience of this?



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