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Kilkenny GAA Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭therealdonster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Comerman


    Agreed Blackcard but I was comparing him to Ronnie who rarely knows players names but knows their fathers, mothers and grandfathers etc. Not to mention the "schamozzles" 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    They're a disaster, as you say Mick Walsh can only ever see one winner and Ronnie commentates on everything bar what's going on on the pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Comerman


    Tried to watch the U19 final on the app, cannot watch it full screen on the phone or cast it to the TV, waste of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    Nothing other than a very convincing win today will suffice for the seniors. A strong team named. This is what Lyng has been preparing for starting today. Murphy gas deservedly kept his spit at corner back, albeit tommy didn't do anything wrong when there. Tom phelan must have recovered well after injury to be selected to start. All depending on how results in later stages go we could be looking for a strong goal difference at the end of the 5 matches. Galway away is a tough one. It might cone down to the last match at home to Wexford. Best of luck to the boys today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭me89


    The ticket price is worth it just to watch TJ on a sunny day, absolute class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,067 ✭✭✭kksaints


    11 points up at halftime. Very comfortable so far anyway. TJ bar a missed penalty has been his usual quality, Kenny and Richie Reid have done well in midfield. Shane Murphy has been very good also.

    Some negatives: we really should have another goal and we need to be more clinical at finishing. Mossy who has done well for the most point had a goal chance he should have finished and as above TJ missed a penalty. Eoin Cody has had an off day, nothing has worked for him so far. Tom Phelan has shown some signs of rust. Mullen went off after 15 minutes, must have been injured and if I was to be super critical there's a bit of space through the centre of the half back line for Antrim to run through. We were slightly lucky to get away with just a free in the first few minutes when Antrim just sailed through. Deegan has done alright today but I don't think he's suited to centre back at intercounty level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    A glorious day in the park and a comprehensive win. It looks like antrim have gone backwards. They had no gameplan for delivery of ball into their forwards. That being said kilkenny were full value for their 32 point win. Poor opposition but our backs hurled well. Shane Murphy and mikey carey giving us a few more options coming out of defence. Midfield good. Mullen going off early first half and Cody early in the 2nd half hopefully only precautions. Cody's touch not great today and he really needs to lay off more ball when the situation needs it.

    Owen Wall struck 2 beauties and added 2 more points. He's another option there. Drennan better today and got the flick in that led to the last goal.

    Tom phelan rusty as was said earlier but he needs games now. Tj his usual excellent self bar the penalty save. Donnelly decent most the way through.

    Way tougher test in salthill next sunday and Mullen and Cody will be needed up there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,067 ✭✭✭kksaints


    2nd half was a complete blowout, Antrim were completely overran and to a certain extent we probably should have scored more than 5-30 but that would be nitpicking. The most pleasing aspect of the win was that the young players who came off the bench really drove the knife in in the 2nd half. Owen Wall with 2-2 and Billy Drennan with 1-6, Ger Dunne got 1-2 I think. Kenny had a very good game in midfield and Carey and Shane Murphy also put in fine performance. Deegan got some nice long range scores, Richie Reid wasn't quite as good in the 2nd half but he still had a good game in midfield overall. Keoghan unselfishly set up Ger Dunne's goal and got some decent scores of his own.

    Admittedly it was against an awful Antrim side but you'd have to be happy with today's performance. The only negatives would be the injuries to Mullen, Cody and Eoin Murphy. Cody didn't have a good game in the 1st half and got injured two minutes into the 2nd for a very unlucky day. He looked to be limping fairly badly which isn't great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭jamesbond2022


    Great win for the minors yesterday they did the basics very well hooks flicks especially the backs

    Over the last few years our minors have looked small and slow and not that physically developed this team have some lovely hurlers

    Underage teams can be very inconsistent at times so it will be interesting to see how they go when the get a sterner test and play away from home


    No much to read into today but nice to see the 2 Mikey’s back and Tom phealan who showed up well but I think centre back and midfield are still a worry for me Antrim got through us very easy at times

    Tj is a joy to watch and the runs he makes are class our other forwards don’t seem to be able to make the same runs or open up the same space I thought our forwards really struggled when he went off

    Hopefully Cody mullens and Murphy’s injuries aren’t to bad for next week



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Galway are in the same position as we are, both of us with facile wins, so no advantage there then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    I know this is the Kilkenny thread, but are Limerick going to win this years All Ireland at their ease? Teams are able to stay with them for 50/55 mins (and even build big leads) but then just run out of gas. Are Limerick just a fitter team than the rest of us? Obviously they have fantastic hurlers but they seem to come into their own for the last 20 mins of games. Why do they seem more conditioned than other teams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭WhatsGoingOn2


    I think today that Clare lost rather than Limerick won. All 3 goals were soft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Grats


    I know it's early days yet but interesting, and amusing, that one or two particular posters are so silent. Some just cannot bear good news. Hopefully the good news continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭The_Tank


    Limerick were as shabby as the league match against us and to their credit had enough in the emotional tank to pull it out of the fire. But there’s a hum of Kilkenny 2013 off them at the moment.

    Suddenly Tipp and Waterford, who everyone wrote off are in with a massive chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    I wouldnt fancy taking on Limerick in Croke Park. They needed that scrappy win today. Hegarty amd Hayes ,lynch came good. They ll improve. Would you bet on Kilkenny beating Limerick in Croke Park this year? I wouldnt

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Pigeon Chaser


    Phuck Limerick.

    We will do our thing. Let them worry about themselves. They are very beatable. Clare bottled that today ... They might as well have had no keeper. When the time comes this year, we will beat them!

    I've nothing to add about today's game because I wasn't at it other than they need to get rid of the provincial championships and do a proper open draw and get rid of these one sided affairs. Shame we seem to have picked up a couple of injuries. Onto next week...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir


    Limerick, hard to look beyond them. They should get out of Munster after today.

    But in an All Ireland semi or final they can be beaten if off. With all the great sporting runs, you never really see the end coming. Kilkenny in 2010, Dublin v Mayo 2021 etc.

    As we saw today hurling is a game of fine margins. Kilkenny will be at the business end.

    I was surprised with Cork, surely some of those fine U20 players are due to make their mark. Hard to believe, presuming they don't win this year's AI, such a hurling giant will be 20 years without an AI.

    Waterford had a superb U21 winning All Ireland team in 2016, those fellas are 28/29 now and still plenty of hurling in them. They have some fine hurlers.

    Tipp have to be about to do something! They're very very quiet and off the radar.

    Clare have a lot to do now. I'm not a fan of Quilligan in goal. They've been involved in a lot of high emotional Munster games over the last 2 years and they've no championship silverware. I believe you get your chances and you either take them or fall back. Like the Limerick team of the 90s. The chances won't keep coming.

    Very decent result for Dublin. But themselves and Wexford won't take out a big team in knockout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Village87


    Lot of hurling to take in today but Nowlan Park was well down the list. But a great day for Kilkenny hurling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭Grats


    Early days but very promising outlook with the minors performance on Saturday, Seniors yesterday, Under 19s on Thursday and the under 20s having qualified for the Leinster semi final. Nice touch to see the St Kierans team been introduced at half time yesterday. And the supporters were allowed on the pitch after all the matches this week. Long may the good news continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Alonzo Moseley


    Way too much doom and gloom about Kilkenny hurling in recent years, just because we haven’t won a senior AI and we have had a few poor results at minor.

    Our club hurling is by a distance the best in the country, meaning good hurlers are constantly playing very good quality hurling matches, even if playing Intermediate or even Junior.

    I agree it is lazy to just say "we always have hurlers", but it doesn’t mean it isn’t true, it is true.

    I think Limerick are burning oil and getting out of matches (like all great teams) by iron will and generous portions of good luck. Clare out played them yesterday for 55 mins but got mugged by 3 goals, two of which were clear square balls, and the other one should have been saved.

    Clare also have to take the rap, they had Limerick by the throat 10-15 mins into 2nd half but didn’t go for jugular and try to rattle the net when they had the inside players to do so, instead going for long rangers that kept Lim within striking distance.This loss could really scar Clare.

    In the last 4 meaningful matches Lim have played they been outplayed for long stretches, that is telling, it wasn’t happening 2020-2022.

    Unlike Kilkenny in 2010 however, there isn’t an outstanding team nipping at their heels, there are 4-5 teams of roughly equal standard, none of whom are making a big statement of intent and Cork yet again flopping just when they looked like they might be dangerous. So Limerick may not have to reach 2020-2022 heigts to get the 5 done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Village87


    Limerick will be hard to stop after yesterday. Valuable game time to a lot of players. The win yesterday puts them in a great position to get out of Munster, where I was hoping they would get caught. Lynch, Gillane , Hayes, T Morrissey look like they need gametime. Unfortunately they will be peaking come June / July



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭The_Tank


    I'd have a bet because I'd get pretty favourable odds and rightly too ;)

    In 2013 we saw players like Tommy coming to the end (Danny Sutcliffe walked all over him in Portlaoise) and overall everything seamed really laboured - lots of wides, frees against us, indiscipline, lower average return from forwards etc etc. Even though when you looked at us on paper we were still strong. We bet Tipp in that epic match in Nowlan Park because it was Tipp and no way would it all end to them on our home patch but after that was an epic against Waterford a week later and finally we couldn't raise it against Cork. I think we had Henry sent off for tapping a hurl by Barry Kelly but it felt they had our number a bit anyway. The point is that can be a pattern, and within that you get some bounces and on paper things are right - but overall it's a struggle and the real problems are deeper and harder to identify.

    Of course this could be just wishful thinking but I personally don't think this will truly become apparent until we see them at Munster final and potentially in a semi final against us or Galway. There's no doubt their best on the day beats our best on the day but at least the league showed a poor performance from them and we have the capability to take them. I would question why, for all the talk about Clare, they always find a way to put their foot in it. Do they really have the belief or the history?

    Here's a mad bet for the craic - Limerick to lose to Wexford in the qualifiers?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭The_Tank


    Yeah another one for the ‘mad sh1te written on the internet’ bucket - but it might pay for the young lads communion 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Celtic challenge KK beat Tipp things are certainly going in the right direction as regards the underage. I saw Michael Fennelly meeting the minor players and parents in the triangle outside Nowlan park on Saturday, what a win hopefully they can follow up on Saturday against Wexford down there at one o clock another stupid time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir


    The 16s below the minors are meant to be a really good crop. It's a while since there was a bit of back to back in the Kilkenny underage production line. Realistically those players are about 6/7 years away from impacting at senior as a group of players. But that's where most success starts. You look at the effect of the 2002/03/04 Kilkenny minors late in the decade.

    The weekend has made Limerick's position stronger. Clare fecked up and might struggle to get out of the province. I look at Clare and I see a Championship team that lost 2 Munster finals, extra time and all. Lost 2 AI semis to Kilkenny, one non performance and another not getting the job done. Now this flop. You couldn't have confidence in them downing Limerick in Croke Park. You get your chance, you either sh*t or get off the pot. Derry footballers are a little similar. They have 2 provincials but messed up AI semis, especially v Kerry last year.

    In 1996 Liam Griffin had a pic of Stuart Pearce missing a penalty v Germany in the dressing room. Then one scoring a penalty v Germany in Euro 1996. Griffin asked the Wexford team. What's the story here? Liam Dunne says he got a second chance. Griffin, not a man for cursing, replies 'how many more fcuking chances do ye want?'.

    Cork look as shaky as they have for 19 years. Another potential threat to Limerick not looking great. Waterford, improving it seems. But Limerick dispatched them easily in 2020 and 2021. Hard to see them downing Limerick in Croke Park. Tipp, we have to wait and see.

    Galway, the same mix of young and old. One of Galway's attributes was their unpredictability. 1985 v Cork, 1986 v Kilkenny, 1993 v Tipp, 2005 v Kilkenny, 2012 Leinster final. Under Henry they have been predictable and reasonably good in Championship. But they just aren't good enough, like v Limerick last year.

    So that leaves Kilkenny. I think everything would have to go right v Limerick. No big name injuries. Big names turning up. Lesser names having games of their lives. And I think Limerick a bit out of sorts. But it's far from impossible. All the variables of sendings off, injuries, marginal calls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Montys return


    No disrespect to Kilkenny and the All Irelands that they have won, particularly under Cody...but that analogy about Griffin there and teams missing chances is ignoring the fact that Kilkenny have been in 3 finals since they last won it and failed each time and lost 3 semis as well.

    Sooner or later, they will win again and it may well be this year I just think it's very premature to be writing anyone off just yet and Limerick have a lot of winning to do to win their 5th all ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir


    Yeah I didn't mention it and you've a point.

    I suppose Kilkenny weren't good enough to win those All Irelands. Clare were to win a lot of games, Munsters and the AI semi last year.

    Wexford lost the 1988 Leinster final when they were the better team, they should have been well ahead in the 1991 semi and not in a position to be knocked out by the Carey goal. Wexford had 3 chances to win the 1993 league v Cork. They were their equal. Wexford threw away a big lead in the drawn 1993 Leinster final.

    Kilkenny weren't as good as Limerick over the past 2 years. They hung in by guile in 2022. Likewise v Tipp in 2016 and 2019.

    Not taking your chance is when your as good as, or better, than the opposition. Classic Wexford pre Griffin. Wides generally costing them.



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