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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭cosatron


    i think Jay has an all picture no sound relationship with the driver



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    thats a shocking repose from your milk manager jay, he could be as much of your issue as the driver…..its common practice since i started milking the driver puts on the tank, the driver can arrive at any time of day or night, we appreciate each other…respect is everything in business….

    every new driver that gets trained the owner of transport show them how to put on the wash on each tank, we never asked, were in food production hygiene is everything and a tank should always be closed, who knows what could crawl into it…

    are you on the advisory committee? can you ask for it to be made mandatory….as its the standard every where outside loais

    the biggest problem i see in tirlan is the inability to be able to sit down with anyone internally to resolve an issue, no matter how simple or complex they go on the defensive…..you'l have to go through council and board to get any satisfaction and you'l need as many people ringing them about it or they simply wouldnt bother….you have 3 issues milk manager, transport company and the individual driver…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭mf240


    Nobody is asking the lorry driver to get into a milk tank with a brush and marigold gloves. Its just a case of turning off cooler ( one switch) and turning on washer (another switch) .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭mf240


    If he is not able to turn off cooler and turn on washer , the milk manager will have to arange a suitable time for him to collect , so that you will be there to supervise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,263 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I'd say he'd just drive off, they're supposed to have access



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Any chance you d go for a job in the agri lending section of one of the banks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    The whole problem with milk collection is farmers milking times most farmers dont want lorry at all same time.i always work with driver to help him out it may mean milking an hour later in evening but farmers need to understand that these 50 euro notes and the likes dont help much at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭straight


    I do suffer from repetitive strain but not from milking. Only 7 rows. Just saying I'd be buying them for the cows more than myself.

    Maybe I could get liners with a smaller hole. I'll take to my milking machine man about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭straight


    Our drivers have no problem replacing the cover on the outlet and pressing wash. We're blessed with very helpful drivers in fairness -tough job with long hours. They're coming to me every two days now because my tank is too small. Not a word of complaint out of them. They're going to other lads every day at peak.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    What kpa is the clock on the vacuum line showing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭straight


    Don't know. There's a red marker line on the gauge and it sits just to the right of it as usual. Must clean the regulator when I get a chance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I'd say you should get him to call out and test the machine. Even if 1 or 2 clusters are open the rest should be able to stay on the cows. I can't figure out your solution. Unless you are milking heifers with short shiny teats but even after a week that should sort itself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Have milked many three crosses but not in that order, I've montys of Norwegian red and jex cows. I would say a great cross for you system, the NRs are a super breed, seem to be able to adapt to high or low input while maintaining health and fertility . You should have enough size from the first cross.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    GGenerally its 48 kpa.the rule used to be you should be able to throw off 2 clusters open and the rest should stay on the cows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭straight


    Ya, I can do that. Loads of vacuum. 3 heifers last year had the machine falling off and are still not great. 2 or 3 more this year and same story. If they even take a step it falls off. I use kick bars to hold up the milk line for about 4 cows/heifers. I don't mind but disaster for relief milkers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭green daries


    SSell The fuckers cows there offspring will be as bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,719 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    When did you last change the liners? New liners are that bit less able to fall off.

    Edit: it could even be a liner brand issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Theirs a really sinister element involved with this lad, all the above was done last year, after he forgot to collect us on a sunday collecton and had to ring milk manager on a monday morning wondering what the story was, no one in the factory had informed him re not been collected it was the first he heard of it, in the wind up a different lorry came that evening took 8k of milk from tank and the ole chap thinking he had emptied the tank, but hadnt bothered putting the wash on, as was usual at the time, put on the wash, with a 1000 litres of milk still in the tank….

    The latest stroke he tried pulling involved leaving the pump running dry for a good 10 minutes after tank was emptied and was trying to say the yard been on a hill, the pump wasnt fit to lift the milk, learnt this from the driver who had been collecting the milk for the 4 months previous who had been sent up to do a collection to see was their actually a issue, when i mentioned the above re him spending half a hour in the yard when it should of been 10 mins, max to empty the tank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,263 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I'd pick my battles. A few early mornings the milkman here was in the yard for ages, 1 morning he was playing a game on his phone, Another he was waiting to get word back as to where he'd be offloading . Another morning the lorry was broke down. You're only concerned about your tank and milk not his pump on his lorry. Afaik the gps tracker thing will say how long he was in your yard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    I already have HolxNR. About 30% of them are excellent but the rest aren’t.
    I’d be wary of the 3 way cross for the reasons that Ginger22 points out. If they went back into Hol or Monty, I’d be more confident.
    There’s a guy getting out of dairy and joining his farm to his neighboring cereal farm. His production level is 6600L on grass based, so not bad at all..but this is his first foray into a 3 way cross.
    Interesting point…a Hol x Jer is called ‘an Irish’ and a 3 way cross is called ‘a Kiwi’.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Who does it serve that there’s an exemption from driver hours regulation?

    It certainly doesn’t put any money into farmers pockets..but it allows Coops to sub the transport to unscrupulous operators that hire the cheapest drivers and squeeze the last out of them. Maybe bring the haulage up to 2024, proper hours, proper pay..and make the Coops take responsibility for an important part of their part in processing?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Post edited by K.G. on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    camera in dairy, putting one at covering the yard/dairy door in this week, just waiting on cctv lad to get it wired in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Get a nest camera. Set it up on WiFi. Sends a notification every time a person walks past and automatically records previous 3 hours of notified movements. Easy to download the video too. Can get ones with built in floodlights too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    thats what i have in dairy, have the floodlight one in calving shed with full 360 motion their a brilliant job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭pg141


    Make sure you have notices up that CCTV is in operation and has some sentence for monitoring people for safety and quality purpose . If this does turn into an issue and co-op go to sack him there case will fall apart as he not know the camera's were there or being used to monitor him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    What did u find wrong with the norwegian red mine had bad teat placement.My cow of choice is nz friesian and british friesian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,072 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The notice has only to be on display. From my understanding it can be an inch high at the bottom of a window. I

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭older by the day


    As whelan2 said, don't be worried about the lorry that's the coops problem.

    From what you are telling us, it's a personal problem he has with you. Would you be better having a conversation with him, (not an argument), rather than ringing the manager. Maybe it would clear the air. Let bygones be bygones. I'm sure he is not making all those mistakes in every yard.

    And if that doesn't work you can go to the coop.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭older by the day


    My father used to say that water was as important as feed to a cow. And would go around and empty any old water in the troughs in spring. I do the same. I emptied one this evening and found the bones of a rat or bird or something the water was rancid. Its a good habit to check the water troughs after the winter



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