They wouldn’t color the tae!
What did u find wrong with the bad ones
I’ve a HolxNR with a little bit of the tiger stripes also. When you’ve got a good one from that cross, they’re excellent. Medium to small in size, strong and butty, with excellent feet and mobility. They respond well to feed also. When they’re bad however…they’re bad.
They are off a number of bulls zbr sitje roen velsvik to be honest ive only about 15 but out of them all theres only one with a correct udder.Id agree with u on nz friesian and mastitis just thought they cud add milk and mobility to bf reduce cow size and speed up milking would i be better just using pure bf
Not sure the exact spec bowl wise, I know it was a big jump on the previous setup. Shell is likely the standard all stainless ones. Your problem sound worse than here.
Glad it's not just me anyway. I have standard heavy delaval clusters here. Is that what you have? The milk line itself is heavy too. Once I hang up the milk line with a kick bar they work away fine.
At some stage all pedigrees were cross breeds. However when a breed is developed and you makebit pedigree you breed from within a limited genetic pool.
So while NR may be a mongrel breed tgey are breed now from within the breed mainly, that why you introduce a third breed to maintain hybrid vigor
My Guy took the old shells and didn't charge for them. Only thing is the new triangle liners are expensive. Lot lighter which helps when I'm milking 99% of the time
AFAIK the Nowegian Red is a mongrel of a number of breeds so wouldnt be a great choice for a 3rd cross. Can be very variable. We have 2 of them off Holstein/Brown Swiss cross. One looks like a red British Fresian the other is red with tiger stripes. Good hardy cows, small and butty, but trouble free.
WAs talking to our driver here. Yes theyare expected to knock off cooler and put on wash. He said it only takes a second
Have the light weight pearson clusters here. I think once a cluster has fallen off in the 5 months we've been using them. Used to have a pain in my shoulder from old parlour. That's gone
Talk of lightweight clusters got me thinking this morning, perfectly teated heifers you have to hold the cluster on for a little while to get a hold. It's something I always thought was normal. Machine tested fine and has new liners fitted. Delaval clusters that were high spec at the time and a big upgrade on what they replaced. I remember being warned it could be an issue changing at the time but it was seamless. Cow udder and milking speed is a lot better now I think a slightly bigger capacity and lighter cluster would be better. Afraid to ask how much though.
The purpose of a three way cross is to keep hybrid vigor within the breeding. If your breed is 50/50 and you breed back with one of the orginall breed you lose hybrid vigor. To keep it you have to use a third breed.
To keep hybrid vigor you are trying to keep any one breed used as near to or below 50% if possible.
3 way outcross, on paper, would indicate a lack of a genetic line or purity. Therefore you could get the worst of all 3 breeds. If he had gone back into Hol or Monty he’d have doubled down on those breeds.
They weren’t ‘milky’…bad feet, poor mobility etc.
Apart from maybe one bull EGE, no such issues here, and they're all very good cows, functional and long lasting. Plenty udders here are off high ebi fr. What NR bulls were they off?
I find NZ Fr very prone to mastitis and SCC, probably due to their free milking and milk loss in cubicles. Calf quality is poor too, understandably.
Apart from colouring or if there was a large size difference such as with a Jersey, I'm not sure what issues would be with a 3 way cross that there wouldn't be with a pure bred, apart from notional. Most traits are universal and varied across dairy cattle. A pure bred can take after any particular ancestor just as easy as a cross bred.
My father used to say that water was as important as feed to a cow. And would go around and empty any old water in the troughs in spring. I do the same. I emptied one this evening and found the bones of a rat or bird or something the water was rancid. Its a good habit to check the water troughs after the winter
As whelan2 said, don't be worried about the lorry that's the coops problem.
From what you are telling us, it's a personal problem he has with you. Would you be better having a conversation with him, (not an argument), rather than ringing the manager. Maybe it would clear the air. Let bygones be bygones. I'm sure he is not making all those mistakes in every yard.
And if that doesn't work you can go to the coop.
The notice has only to be on display. From my understanding it can be an inch high at the bottom of a window. I
What did u find wrong with the norwegian red mine had bad teat placement.My cow of choice is nz friesian and british friesian
Make sure you have notices up that CCTV is in operation and has some sentence for monitoring people for safety and quality purpose . If this does turn into an issue and co-op go to sack him there case will fall apart as he not know the camera's were there or being used to monitor him
thats what i have in dairy, have the floodlight one in calving shed with full 360 motion their a brilliant job
Get a nest camera. Set it up on WiFi. Sends a notification every time a person walks past and automatically records previous 3 hours of notified movements. Easy to download the video too. Can get ones with built in floodlights too.
camera in dairy, putting one at covering the yard/dairy door in this week, just waiting on cctv lad to get it wired in
Have you cctv in the yard
Who does it serve that there’s an exemption from driver hours regulation?
It certainly doesn’t put any money into farmers pockets..but it allows Coops to sub the transport to unscrupulous operators that hire the cheapest drivers and squeeze the last out of them. Maybe bring the haulage up to 2024, proper hours, proper pay..and make the Coops take responsibility for an important part of their part in processing?
I already have HolxNR. About 30% of them are excellent but the rest aren’t. I’d be wary of the 3 way cross for the reasons that Ginger22 points out. If they went back into Hol or Monty, I’d be more confident. There’s a guy getting out of dairy and joining his farm to his neighboring cereal farm. His production level is 6600L on grass based, so not bad at all..but this is his first foray into a 3 way cross. Interesting point…a Hol x Jer is called ‘an Irish’ and a 3 way cross is called ‘a Kiwi’.
I'd pick my battles. A few early mornings the milkman here was in the yard for ages, 1 morning he was playing a game on his phone, Another he was waiting to get word back as to where he'd be offloading . Another morning the lorry was broke down. You're only concerned about your tank and milk not his pump on his lorry. Afaik the gps tracker thing will say how long he was in your yard
Theirs a really sinister element involved with this lad, all the above was done last year, after he forgot to collect us on a sunday collecton and had to ring milk manager on a monday morning wondering what the story was, no one in the factory had informed him re not been collected it was the first he heard of it, in the wind up a different lorry came that evening took 8k of milk from tank and the ole chap thinking he had emptied the tank, but hadnt bothered putting the wash on, as was usual at the time, put on the wash, with a 1000 litres of milk still in the tank….
The latest stroke he tried pulling involved leaving the pump running dry for a good 10 minutes after tank was emptied and was trying to say the yard been on a hill, the pump wasnt fit to lift the milk, learnt this from the driver who had been collecting the milk for the 4 months previous who had been sent up to do a collection to see was their actually a issue, when i mentioned the above re him spending half a hour in the yard when it should of been 10 mins, max to empty the tank
