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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 DoyleLoneganYouFollow


    And you expect to win a war when this is going on:

    " Ukraine has paid contractors hundreds of millions of dollars for weapons that have not been delivered, and some of the much-publicized arms donated by its allies have been so decrepit that they were deemed fit only to be cannibalized for spare parts.

    Ukrainian government documents show that as of the end of last year, Kyiv had paid arms suppliers more than $800 million since the Russian invasion in February 2022 for contracts that went completely or partly unfulfilled.

    Two people involved in Ukraine’s arms purchasing said that some of the missing weapons had eventually been delivered, and that in other cases brokers had refunded the money. But as of early this spring, hundreds of millions of dollars had been paid — including to state-owned companies — for arms never materialized, one of these people said.

    “We did have cases where we paid money and we didn’t receive,” Volodymyr Havrylov, a deputy defense minister working on arms procurement, said in a recent interview. He said the government this year had begun analyzing its past purchases and excluding problematic contractors."

    TIP OF THE ICEBERG



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    "Ho Chi Minh had no communist leanings before the war."

    That'd be "One of the founders of the French Communist Party (1920) & founded the Communist Party of Vietnam (1930)" Ho Chi Minh?


    Wherever you're getting your ideas from, it seems a bit light on historical fact.

    Post edited by Hoop66 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    How would the mans own words suffice? He knew nothing of communism and was only drawn to the party after the Russian revolution as a means to secure Vietnams independence from colonialism. He used communism that same way as the Irish used help from outside sources and ideas to try to secure our own independence. He was primarily a nationalist who saw a movement which could help him further his ideals.

    https://challenge-magazine.org/2020/05/19/ho-chi-minh-how-i-became-a-communist/



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Because bigger picture; the "garbage" did hold them back. What had been a Russian flying column lightning war to take Kiev and install their own government fell on its arse, not least due to clear failures on the Russian logistical side. Spun up at first as the now memory holed "feint" then and much later the whole "Boris Johnson told Kiev to keep fighting" because that sounds better. Yes indeed… Never mind the later losses of Kherson and Kharkiv within weeks of the Kremlin declaring them Forever Russia©. Never mind the also memory holed coup that wasn't from their own private military unit that rattled the Kremlin into blocking roads with buses and lashing together lightly armed checkpoints on the outskirts of Moscow.

    Two years in even with the shortages of AA and no Ukrainian air force to speak of Russia still doesn't have air superiority and if the Russian navy were any more eastwards it would be landlocked. Russia has been forced by strategic and tactical failures to resort to at distance attacks on infrastructure and WW1 trench warfare going hedgerow to hedgerow using some of the only advantages it has; more artillery, more manpower & the willingness to sacrifice that manpower. And even with those advantages in numbers against a far smaller adversary using garbage it's still extremely slow going.

    And that's just the war to gain territory. Whatever peace follows is when the going gets tougher. It always does. The US suffered the vast majority of its casualties after they won the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Russia hasn't passed the first stage yet.

    Even if they kill or drive all Ukraine sympathisers from the parts they hold or even if they take all the way to the Dnieper Russia's still fooked. They'll inherit a cratered mess that they'll have to rebuild. Rebuild with resources they can ill afford. Take sanctions. The mistake often made regarding sanctions is people expect them to have an immediate effect. That's actually not their purpose. What sanctions do is heavily curtail growth and it gets worse over time. The death of a thousand cuts. Now Russia is a major producer of energy and food, so it won't go cold or hungry any time soon and beyond the cities lifestyles have changed little enough in decades, but whatever wider economic growth that happened in Russia since 2000(which peaked circa 2009) that's not looking great at all. Turning large parts of your industrial base to war production makes this worse again.

    Note too; BRICS or more to the point, the lack of Russian spin/chatter about it now. Well, within months of this invasion the BRICS bank cut funding to Russian projects. Oops… Sure, no doubt China gives Russia some backdoor tech, but China has her own fish to fry. India is doing what they wisely did during Cold War 1; largely keeping out of it. Brazil is too far away, South Africa is a crisis away from being utterly fecked. For me the more "interesting" stuff around BRICS is actually newbie members in the Middle East. Russia's actual allies? Iran and North Korea. Whatever about the former, that Russia needed to cosy up to the latter speaks volumes, little of it good.

    They've also created an independent Ukraine in the mind of Ukrainians and the wider world that didn't exist before. Imperialist mindsets tend to do that. Not least here in Ireland. New nations are born from that kinda thing. Russia is also facing a much expanded NATO and a more belligerent Europe with it. Doh! It's not exactly a great sign when long standing neutral nations like Finland and Sweden drop that overnight and take a side against you and are confident enough to do so.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Great post

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240413203658/https%3A//www.economist.com/by-invitation/2024/04/11/russia-is-sure-to-lose-in-ukraine-reckons-a-chinese-expert-on-russia

    Shrewd observers note that China’s stance towards Russia has reverted from the “no limits” stance of early 2022, before the war, to the traditional principles of “non-alignment, non-confrontation and non-targeting of third parties”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I would not be one to say US military hardware is rubbish. A vast majority of it is perfect workable and does what it says it does. The Abrams tank, point to note, the US told Ukraine a long time ago it was not ideal for warfare in Eastern Europe. It uses alot of fuel and needs specific and frequent maintenance. I think in fact someone said to me it was designed to deal with desert war. The F16 are seriously top drawer stuff a old one in Turkey shot down a top end Russia jet a few years back. Over all, US hardware it miles ahead off Russia and I would say China. My only problem with the US these days is how slow they have been delivering the gear Ukraine so badly needed much earlier. The F16 would have helped the plan B counter attack last year. This time round I suspect they will be used for air defense.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Some “junk”

    I would say the closest F16s get to frontline is to lob glide bombs at Russians, probably mostly used to chase/intercept drones and missiles like we seen this week being done around Israel, and as another platform for cruise missiles like above link from today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭threeball


    The gear isn't rubbish, but they've been bandying around figures that made it look like they were providing astronomical amounts of money into Ukraine when in reality they were sending gear that would have cost them millions if not billions to de-commission and pricing it out as if it were new off the production line. All the tanks and bradleys they sent were mothballed, most would have been heading for scrap. The cluster munitions were to be de-commissioned. The himars were coming to end of life in many cases. The patriots were some of the only gear that was close to the value put on it. My point is, the headline figures are probably 10x the real cost figures and gave ammunition to many pro Russian senators and congressmen to use as a stick to beat anyone who wanted to send more. If they were honest in their monetary assessments from the start then they'd have been able to give more with less flak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,581 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    the only chance of this war of being a success is that russia can ransack Ukraines natural resources and farmland. In order to do that they need a subordinate population or conduct/continue a campaign of genocide that would wipe out millions from the population. Millions fleeing to other parts of Europe will make their campaign of genocide easier.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    What good are resources if Russia remains the most sanctioned country in world where even “allies” avoid or can’t do business, eg Turkish, UAE and Chinese banks deliberately cutting off any Russia links out of fear of losing access to much larger western markets or Iran and North Korea insisting on payment in gold or India insisting their currency which can’t be used outside of India used.

    Overall volumes both physical and measured in dollars of every Russian natural resource exports are down, be it gas, oil, coal, diamonds, metals, or even uranium

    Their “allies” are laughing while paying (when find a loophole) a fraction of the price for these resources as the sanctions suit them quite well too. Why? Because Russia willingly became nothing more than a resource colony with no bargaining power.

    Ireland has next to no natural resources yet has an economy a third the size of Russia and per capita wealth (and lower inequality) that is 10x average Russians

    tl.dr: I do not subscribe to the resources theory, it’s at best a secondary objective for Putin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    There's too much focus on the US and this "will they, won't they" aid saga. There is no immediate threat to the US, it is the opposite side of the world. It's for the Americans to decide.

    How can it be that Europe, with an economy and population far greater than that of Russia, is unable to defend itself? Not to mention that Europe has more advanced technology and access globally. That is the big question.

    I know many European countries have given aid, and taken in many refugees, but the fact seems to be that Ukraine is getting outgunned on the front lines and forced to retreat. This is most shocking.

    Even the most cynical European who has no compassion of Ukrainian people must see that for European security, Russia must at an absolute minimum be bogged down in Ukraine.

    Why can't Europe support, if not in attacking manoeuvres but at least to shoot down the Russian missiles to save lives ?

    yes, this war is also catastrophic for Russia, but frankly they don't care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Drop the gavel and mobilize before we are all gobbled up by Putin…no? Why aren't NATO massing on the borders of Norway and the Czech Republic and carrier groups off the coast of Vladivostok for fear that our kids will be learning ballet instead of hip-hop dance moves?

    let the mask slip there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,581 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    give it 10/20 years and the west will start buying russian oil/ gas. They will use a change of russian leader as an excuse to re establish trade/relations… but they just want that cheap oil/gas. Hopefully I am wrong but the last few weeks has made be quite depressed about the situation.

    In a way wrecking Ukraine is a win for russia, they can’t have a successful ex soviet state neighbour challenging them in the energy sector.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,581 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    russia has best tank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    You have been up very early in the morning getting busy, fortifying yourself with a few burgers for the day ahead no doubt!

    Your NYT story, while unfortunate of course (had read it before) still does not mean the US sent "mostly junk" weapons. These weapons seem to have caused Russian military a lot of problems anyway, and the glorious new Reich Russian Empire in Ukraine has been on hold.

    Russia had been hinting from day 1 of the invasion about use of nuclear weapons if too much Western "junk" gets sent to aid Ukraine. Their most recent battlefield successes occured after flows of "junk" from the US slowed + dried up. Just an odd cooincidence.

    May be tough for likes of you to understand but leaders of democracies, even ones with Presidential systems like US, cannot govern by fiat.

    There has been more military expenditure and NATO activity in N. and E. of Europe since 2014, and it has increased since 2022. It involves new European countries that border Russia that were formerly neutral (Sweden and Finland). So people are worried about something wouldn't you say, and are acting accordingly.

    Russia/Putin have been belly-aching about it anyway (edit: e.g. "unfriendly" actions of Finland in joining NATO etc. that are occuring for no reason at all in a hard vaccum).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭thomil


    I think the only offensive use these jets are going to see once they become operational is going to be SEAD, suppression of enemy air defense. The AGM-88 HARM that Ukraine already have are designed to integrate seamlessly with the F-16 and will allow for quite a few additional attack modes when compared to what's available on the jury-rigged implementation on Ukraine's MiG-29 or Su-27 fleet. Creating a SAM-free zone close to the border would make life for the Ukrainian Air Force's ground attack units a whole lot easier. Beyond that, air defense is going to be their primary task, at least until Ukraine has enough aircraft for a properly sized strike force.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    In 10-20 years Russia would become a Northerner Korea, sanctions rarely ever get dropped, points at Cuba and Iran

    That’s before we consider the world decarbonising, especially China who is not only doing that but will lose 300mn of its population as they age and die in this timeframe

    the same dysfunctions in US politics cut both ways btw, short of Trump destroying the US republic and then winning a second civil war and crowning himself king the sanctions will stay and mount

    And that’s before we consider Europe where half the states close to Russia have populations that viscerally hate them and have a say in EU policies.

    Be careful of falling for cynicism and ignoring existing examples, that’s precisely one of the objectives of Russian propaganda. Ukraine will lose not when it’s military is defeated but when its population and its allies get brainwashed into thinking they lost and giving up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,581 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    A good point regarding China.
    I have been listening to right wing podcasts of late and it’s insane how pro Trump/anti Ukraine they are. My judgment has become cloudy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭victor8600


    There is a bit of the old doom and gloom in the thread in the last couple of months. Which is understandable as Ukraine seemingly is not getting closer to liberating its territory anymore. But there are encouraging voices coming from Russia. They are desperate for "peace talks", even the Pope is pushing for Ukraine to "raise the white flag", and I just wonder what kind of dirt Russians have on Pope Francis. The reason for all that peace mongering is simple — Russia is collapsing.

    By my estimates, they will run out of money in 2025. Even the contract soldiers that are paid fantastic (by Russian standards) salaries are deserting at a rate of 15-20 a day ( https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-troops-mobilization-desertion-problems-convictions-1881268 ). If Russia has to mobilize, then conscripts will be running home in droves.

    This is a battle of wills. If Ukraine is starved of ammo and has to slowly retreat, Russians are seen as successful, and it gives Russia a moral boost. If Ukraine just holds more or less what it has now, Russia will eventually fold.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    True, but to do that they need to build the infrastructure to mine those resources. Within Russia herself a lot of the oil/gas infrastructure was made in and often maintained by western companies. That source is now effectively shut off, so they'll have to build their own and that's going to take time to spin up. Farmland is easier, though a fair chunk of it now looks like a moonscape full of mines and they also need to repair or build infrastructure to get it from the fields to ports and to market.

    And that market itself is now more reduced and further away. Because of sanctions Western concerns aren't going to buy much of it so they have to open other markets, markets which don't have nearly the same amount of cash to pay for it. Russia knew this all too well, or should have known going into this. Look in which direction the vast majority of Russia's pipelines were running to before this mess. It wasn't to their "friends" in China, nor the "Global South".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    On BBC they had an interview with commander recently from somewhere along the 1000km long front he had some interesting points:

    • Yes things are grim but nowhere near as grim as start of war
    • Yes he lost friends but majority are alive and tired of being in front for two years
    • He is grateful for western assistance, send more please
    • The Russians keep sending “meat waves” of mobiks followed by more experienced units and the psychological damage to his soldiers of having to grind these down is a long term psychological issue

    But most importantly one point he made really stuck with me; “If Russians win they will exterminate me and my mates and our families”

    The choice is between potential death and certain death for them.

    It’s been two years since Bucha and it seems some have forgotten what Russia “winning” will mean in reality, direct extermination of millions and forcing out millions more at best or Russian serfdom at worst.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I seriously doubt they'll run out of money by next year. Or political will at the top. I'd reckon they can keep going for at least three or four years. Putin appears to have no climb down plan in his pocket. He has to keep ploughing on. Now of course whatever happens Putin will claim mission accomplished and I suspect the majority of his support will go along with it. They seem to have an unbounded capacity for belief in him steering Mother Russia and an incredible capacity for amnesia to suit that. That's the thing and problem with faith in any narrative, religious, national, or political, you have to believe all of it or the whole thing looks shaky.

    If anything cynicism of this war at home would help him there if it stopped, no matter where it stopped. The tiebreaker imho would be Odessa. Russians very much consider that a Russian city™. Not taking that would hurt him at home, even if he took all of Donbas. Though again this faith and capacity for amnesia which the Kremlin has massaged for two decades helps him.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭zv2


    If Trump goes to jail will he have the nuclear briefcase in the cell with him?

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Yip, apparently nothing in the US constitution that stops someone running the country as president from inside a prison cell.

    Like here where, I think, you cannot take up office in Irish gov if bankrupt .. this is not the case in the US I think.

    So basically outside of possible embarassment which may lose him a few votes, none of these cases will harm Trumps go at being the be next president. Complete waste of time really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The pro-Russian Georgia Dream party, who are in power in that country are trying to ram through a Russian inspired Foreign Agent law. The implication is that they will use this to silence opposing politicians and media prior to upcoming elections later this year.

    The opposition are, quite literally, going to fight them on it:



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    His polling numbers go up after every trial he appears in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Yip @ToweringPerformance this is why I have said here and elsewhere that the Dems are wasting there time and energy on pushing these cases rather than focusing on there own campaign and putting all there energy into that for that last 4 years. In fact the dems, by pushing for all these cases are just completely aiding Trumps election as next president of US in 2025 in my view



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Give him a big red button that’s attached to a fake suitcase and tweets to truth social a 💩 emoji everytime he mashes the button



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Veda Kind Yak


    The yanks want out of this war badly, and Donald is their Trump card to achieve this. They can just blame Trump for abandoning Ukraine, and he won't give a toss about being the bad guy.

    I have a feeling the uniparty is making sure Trump gets back in, because there is a real fear that they've gotten themselves into yet another deeply unpopular un-winnable war that threatens the entire political establishment. The public are getting sick of their taxes going on forever wars, and being seen as warmongers around the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    What are you talking about? America aren’t in a war in Ukraine.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,064 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Uhh…. the Dems aren't pushing these trials, and they're campaigning away. FWIW, two of the felony trials are state-level (Georgia, today's hush money trial)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,581 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/1peaaGQGjg


    powerful stuff, Georgia aren’t having russia creep in the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Russia is reckoned to have spent 220 billion US $ on the war so far. Imagine if they spent that on their own country’s infrastructure. They’d be the envy of everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Field east


    surely he will have to have security personnel in with him and maybe double the normal number because of the increased risk of what the inmates might do re Trump himself and that ‘briefcase’



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭rogber


    Thinking that wars are won by "wills" is the kind of nonsense Hitler used to believe. Yes it makes a difference but a lot less difference than weapons and manpower and Ukraine needs more of both, urgently.

    Nor will Russia run out of money in 2025. In 2022 people said in 2023 the country would grow broke. Didn't happen then and won't now. They have China and many countries helping them out and in addition doing all sorts of crooked stuff to get around sanctions.

    One thing you are right about: Ukraine will not capitulate to a future as Russian slaves. But can they hold onto what they have now? I hope so but by it could be a very bloody and brutal summer if rumours of big Russia offensive are true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    China is rapidly decarbonizing some of its energy but the dirty carbon part is rapidly growing and outpacing it.

    By 2100 the story of global carbon in the previous 3 centuries will be dominated by China, then India with America and Europe a distant 3rd.

    Sometime in the 2030s they will out pass the entirety of US and European carbon since the beginning of the Industrial revolution.

    They produce more carbon now in a year than the rest of the OECD countries combined which is pretty much everyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Imagine what Russia would be like today if Putin had not gone down the criminal route after he was elected…But no, he didn't, and now we are where we are. But one thing for sure can be learned from it anyway, allowing laws to be changed, without opposition, is the first act of losing liberty and freedom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    What would the effect be if Iran escalates in the Middle East, would it impact supplies to Russia?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    last saturday night cost 1.2 billion to defend israel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭victor8600


    Your Hitler argument is weak. It is very much a battle of wills. Why haven't Ukraine collapsed in the first days of the invasion? Because of thousands of Ukrainian volunteers that were fighting a long fight on the borders of Donbas and Luhansk, because of Zelensky who quite unexpectedly decided to become a hero, because of the Ukrainian army that stood and fought.

    Was it inevitable? Not at all. In the South of Ukraine (Mariupol excepted) people were not ready to fight and the Russian army just rolled into Kherson practically unopposed. If Zelensky did what was expected of him and fled the country, would the Ukrainian army fight with the same determination? Would anyone send Ukraine weapons if the country didn't show the will to fight? I would bet not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Natural partners to who? They aren't very popular among their neighbours, which has probably something to do with the fact that they tend to invade them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,289 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Who is "we"?

    Ukraine are fighting Russia because they've been invaded by them. Because Russian soldiers have raped, murdered and tortured civilians and flattened large parts of their country.

    Why are the rest of the western world supporting Ukraine? See above.

    Why are the Russian soldiers doing this? Because they're under the control of a weak, megalomaniac gangster who has managed to violently supress all opposition to his criminal empire that masquerades as the successor to the USSR.

    Why haven't Russian patriots risen up against him? A small number have, and they're fighting alongside Ukraine. Most Russian men are clearly too cowardly to join them. Others are simply brainwashed, under-educated fools akin to their Trump supporting American rednecks.

    A final question: why are you posting Russian propaganda on an Irish forum? Are you one of the aforementioned Russian cowards who'll do Putin's bidding because you're too afraid to do otherwise? An Irishman being paid by the Kremlin to spout their shite? A bot that's been programmed to do so? Or just another under-educated fool who "did his research" online?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭scottser


    Russia is a fukn stain on the world. You're shilling for Satan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,351 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    DoyleLoneganYouFollow threadbanned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,125 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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