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Iran has come out of the shadows and attacked Israel directly. **Read OP before posting**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭SeanW


    This is coming from someone who denies that Iran isn't waging a proxy war against Israel and it's 7.4 million Jews.

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  • Posts: 753 ✭✭✭ Maliyah Miniature Steak


    Israel now saying it has "approved both offensive and defensive actions", referring to Iran's attack.

    I think it's worth emphasizing that this is the first direct attack Iran has ever done to Israel. It's inconceivable that Israel will not respond offensively to some significant degree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Feel free to keep up the victim complex SeanW. Not sure where it will get you, but by all means continue as usual.

    I know this is a little out there as regards a theory, but bear with me for a minute. What if, maybe just maybe, Iran aimed its drones at Israel because Israel attacked its territory (i.e. an Embassy) and killed its diplomats? Imagine for a second that it wasn't just coincidence that they decided to express their "jew hatred" just after such a terrorist-style attack had been perpetrated

    Are you guys not always telling us that Israel isn't waging war against Palestinians because "shure if they wanted to kill them all they just could". Well over 30k dead doesn't constitute waging war when it is Israel doing the killing. But zero dead, and a perpetual victim complex, when it suits Israel, does



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Luna84
    Mentally Insane User


    They could storm rafah(not that I want them too as that is where the majority of Gazans are) but they will never defeat Hamas. Sure look at the time UK sent men to long kesh to stop the IRA but didn't stop the attacks it actually caused more attacks there was many more men ready to fight it is the same in Gaza, many men would join the ranks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    "Citing officials in Jerusalam". Half the feckers in Jerusalam hate Bibi a lot of politics at play there.

    I don't think Bibi gives a hoot what Biden says anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    There is zero doubt Israel will be responding and when they do it will be a major response.

    Posters are absolutely deluded if they think this once in a lifetime opportunity for Israel isn't going to be pounced upon. What Joe Biden says will make zero difference to them as they know he'll keep selling them those weapons.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Iran bans all Israeli linked ships from the Hormuz Straits starting today. They just need Gibraltar now and they have got the treble up.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Very true. The disgraceful conduct of the US there will never be forgotten or forgiven by Iranians, yet most in the west don't even know the extent of what the US did there. Absolute disgrace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,751 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    He cares if an issue leads to deteriorating relations and ends up dividing his war cabinet. Do you think it was a coincidence Israel suddenly decided to let more aid in and pulled troops out of southern Gaza after a phone call between Joe and Bibi? I am guessing Israel know they owe a debt to their allies for helping to intercept the missiles. This perhaps has given the Americans some leverage. Had the vast majority not being intercepted bombs would be falling on Tehran since this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Perhaps. But perhaps a more realistic theory is that if Iran weren't using a variety of groups as proxies in their war against the Jewish state, then Israel would have no need to "go to the source" of its problems?

    Iran funds, trains, arms and probably directs many of these terrorist groups, but they seem to get a pass for doing so according to some. Obviously Israel disagrees and is getting tired of the Ayatollah's games.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    IT manager iyal (for example) working for a company of 50 is not a criminal committing genocide.

    Grow up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭threeball


    Netanyahu knows he can't hold power once the war ends and he could end up in prison due to all manner of shady shenanigans he's been involved in. The attack on the embassy was a direct attempt to prolong and extend this war to save his own skin. Just like Trump in the US and Putin in Russia, he sees power as his only shield against going under.

    We're not dealing with normal human brings here. We're dealing with narcissistic psychopaths who will quite gladly watch the world burn to save their own skin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,462 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "When you're neighbours raison detre is you're total destruction then don't sit back and wait for the first strike"

    Could very easily be the motto for Hamas back in October.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    Oh i completely agree, Bibi is a madman and he isn't passing up on this golden opportunity he's been presented with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,751 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    it's no coincidence Bibi has expressed admiration for Putin in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    You seem to be of the opinion that Iran, or Hamas, would be justified to attack the "source" of its problems i.e. the US and UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭combat14


    israel didnt ask for US permission to take out the iranian generals next door in syria and they wont ask permission when the time is right to take out irans nuclear progamme aimed at them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Given their nature Israel will almost certainly hit back and it will most likely be a lot harder than Iran's limp attempt last night.

    All last night proved was Iran can't harm Israel, if they had the ability to hurt them they would of by now but they simply don't have the tools, they can talk all they want but that's the reality, they may be able to put a positive spin on it domestically but to the world they look weak now and they've opened the door for a direct Israeli attack that they wont be able to respond to, which will make them look even weaker.

    Iran are at their best staying in the shadows, sowing discontent, attacking indirectly and using their proxies.

    I really can't see the logic behind last nights attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    There is a narrative out there that Biden can control Bibi but the events of the last 6 months prove otherwise. Bibi knows an election is in the balance in the US and has played Joe like a fiddle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 DoyleLoneganYouFollow


    "Would Israel have launched the attack on the consulate if Iran had not supplied weapons to its proxies on Israel's border?*

    Whoa, whoa!!! Are you serious? An Embassy is off limits. You can't just make it up as you go along. It doesn't matter how you slice it and dice it. You don't just get to rip up the rule book because you like being sneaky. Hospitals are off limits. Aid workers are off limits. To make up some horrible excuse that they are masquerading as covers for combatants is irrelevant. They are OFF LIMITS.

    An Embassy being deliberately bombed is a war crime.

    Do you care about international law or do you just think "fcek it, I'll just invent scenaria and preferential outcomes depending on which way the wind blows on any given day"?



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Luna84
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    I don't agree with you it made them look weak. It's all about who has the most missiles if they go to war. It supposedly cost 1 billion US dollars on all missiles used last night by Israel and western fighter jets. So it would not be sustainable for Israel to keep doing that. Who has the most missiles and drones is who would win in the exchanges if there was a war. I know Israel have their own missiles for their own defence systems but they also own patriot and American jets with US missiles and the west is running short of them after giving thousands to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Sure Russia backed off in 2014! It's bloodthirsty neighbour tried and failed. Plenty of land for the Ukrainians but they wanted it all. Thankfully their ineptitude on the battlefield not seen since the charge of the light brigade ensured a decisive Russian victory for Crimea.

    You see, it's easy to write nonsense.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,542 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's Iran attacking Israel once. Now imagine if it happened again and again, it would be unsustainable for sure. But in what universe would Israel sit there and not retaliate after multiple attacks by Iran?

    If there was a full scale war, Iran would need to solely rely on drones and missiles to attack Israel. Israel has proven it can defend. But if Israel attacked Iran, it would also be with fighter jets bombing key targets unhindered. That would be a lot more unsustainable for Iran.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭SeanW


    The "source" of Iran's problems is that they want a Shia dominated Middle East, hence the proxy war against the Jewish state - the presence of which is unacceptable to the Ayatollahs in any shape or form. Iran has no more casus belli against Israel than Nazi Germany had against Poland.

    And yes, they could attack the US or the UK, but the term FAFO would shortly thereafter become relevant: F Around and Find Out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    If it does ever get to the stage where its actual war then these missiles and drones will be taken out at the source, America/UK will never not back Israel, they'll always come to their aid no matter what.

    Iran simply don't have the ability to hit Israel the way Israel can hit them, a war would be devastating to Iran while Israel would remain largely untouched.

    Biden/America and co wont want it to get this far, but if it somehow does get to that stage you can bet they'll be right behind Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,462 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'de say Iran don't give a fuk about a Shia dominated Middle East or anywhere else.

    Most of what they want is to use war as a way to keep power in Iran and after that they want influence and economic power in the region.

    Like always religion is a smokescreen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    I didn't come up with the name, if it's stressing you so much maybe Google will ease your anxiety



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 DoyleLoneganYouFollow


    Well Iran did have a democratically elected government. A very popular man called Mossadegh. He evicted French, British and American oil corporations who were stealing Iranian oil. As a result he was overthrown by the CIA who then installed a dictator called Reza Pahlavi. He ruled the country in a reign of horror with his Savak death squads. But he allowed the oil companies back in to fill their boots. He even had a solid gold crown.

    Eventually the Iranian people rose up and got rid of the gangster. He was given sanctuary in the US, the very democracy loving darlings who put him in place.

    So now Iran is a fascist dictatorship because they don't allow Chevron to rob their oil, but Saudi Arabia is grand because they do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    That's a pretty wild assertion. Certainly unique.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,462 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Certainly not unique.

    Islamic governments cynically use religion same as everyone else.

    If you think the reasons behind a jihad are honestly about religious conversation you are either naive or blinded by an agenda.



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