Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

I’ve no doubt that those from the affected areas are seeing nothing more than safety and protection, and if I may be permitted a small anecdote those who have settled in my town are lovely, friendly, hard working and I hope they settle as they’re part of the town.

However we went over and above what was required or even expected and it was bound to attract scammers, as did the PUP payments before it - any “free” money will do the same.

For families that is indeed the case. There's a YouTube video of a family arriving by taxi all the way from Belfast at the IPO (I'd link it except the man behind the camera is more or less cursing all the time). They look relaxed and in good form. There will be accomodation made available for them.

That's not the case for single males. I've no doubt they are making a calculation that they can rough it for a few months and eventually be given something.

That's the problem. If they get accommodation then word goes back to Nigeria about how long a wait they have. If it's a matter of weeks then more shall arrive. If it's a matter of months or years it will give them pause.

You cannot accommodate your way out of this crisis. Only an insistence on passport presentation at the airport and yes that passport will be needed when you board the same plane you came out of.

It might be a naive question but I’ve taken a couple of UK flights in the last week or so and has to show my passport before I was allowed back.

Everyone has to come through one of 3-4 routes depending on the gates - 200s, 400s etc. Surely the cost of immigration or Garda staff at these gates asking to see boarding pass and passport is not too much given the billions we are in hock for ?

There is ample space in the airport for rooms to keep those back who have destroyed their documents and facial recognition to see who got off which flights.

We’ve to try SOMETHING surely !

But you have more chance of permanent accommodation if you stay visible in the city center where Ivana and Brid can support you

Lots of coverage of the American man (around 70 yrs old) was up in court for holding irish passports in 2 peoples mames who died as children, living here for around 10-20 years, with no visa. I dont believe he was claiming any welfare, as far as I could make out. Anyways, I fully agree, he broke the law, shoukd be punished. BUT, what I find interesting in the amout of media coverage this got in all the MSM outlets. Reported in the say page 1, 2 or 3. Long articles with details of the case, etc. I think RTE were reporting live from the courts.

This is happening every otherweek or month with Nigerians, South Aficans, Albanians, Etc who are caught with fake passports, or using false names to obtain irish passports, AND claiming welfare while residing in Ireland. It barely gets a mention in the news, maybe a tiny article on page 27 if luckly.

So why did this white American (who was not running from the law in the states) get so much media attention, and not out other illegal migrants ?

Note: he had minor ofference conviction from Michigin from 1977, but was not on the run from US authorities.

Life in a lot of these countries is.. Dreary to say the very least. Slogging it out here in the rainy weather in a tent with lots of ngo help pushing for accommodation is still an improvement on their home circumstances, of course there are tens of millions in the same scenario who would love to come here, we can't help them all 🤷

Some video on YouTube, no doubt by a 'citizen journalist', is about as reliable as telling us you heard it down the pub.

If not fleeing war, can we just send them home, I assume from safe countries, you'd think seeing Ireland has no accommodation they'd move to another country

In regards to Killarney, it really has got bad and it was a beautiful tourist destination, used to go gigs in INEC and Gleneagle with staying elsewhere no way we'd walk Muckross Road anymore, either stay in Brehon or Gleneagle now or drive home

Commenting now as GE coming up and of course immigration will be a big talking point

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/asylum-seekers-granted-refugee-status-who-commit-crime-should-be-deported-says-lisa-chambers/a1155757364.html

'Because you are putting yourself in dangers way' ,the very same told to Ashling Murphy about the lane she used go for a run by her mother

The amount of FF/FG/Green/SF party members getting in their concerned soundbites in recently about immigration is actually hilarious.

They will all stop biting their lips come election season. They all know no amount of calls for charity or “we have our obligations” is going to sit with the people who’ll elect them.

There is a tweet from about 24 months ago doing serious number and it is one of the big political commentators saying “Sinn Fein will be the first to turn on immigration”. Think he hit the ball on the head.

W here

Where would you find the crimes committed by IPAs in Killarney

The election rhetoric starts

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/asylum-seekers-who-commit-serious-crime-while-awaiting-decision-should-be-immediately-deported-fianna-fail-report-says/a1370618822.html

Id imagine those stag and hen parties that used to go there all the time, never engaged in shouting or drinking.....…

The utter nonsense of that.

First, you get arrested for an offense. You are not guilty until the court decides it. So usual time to get to court is about 18 months. Let's say the person is found guilty. Have they been out in the community since that ? Probably. Plus a likely appeal at taxpayers expense and the whole delay and they will never be got rid of.

Second, define serious offence. Just like the failed referendum over a poor or lack of definitions, then this is open to interpretation and on the merry-go-round we go.

Third, I'm guessing it's the ole self deport stupidity. Ah please go will ya. No, here's some social welfare, medical card and accommodation. Wait long enough and we will sort out a house you never have to pay for.

The politicians had 2 years to put some sort of border control in place. We have the laws, just enforce them instead of this socialist help the world nonsense. The easiest one was the airport people with no passport. A very simple check at the airport would have found all the details and back they go.