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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I think since adviika falling something has changed. Just I never thought Ukraine would just be left in the cold by the US, I thought they had a chance once the US just poured military equipment to Ukraine but it's really showing now with Russia hitting Ukrainian power stations etc. They just don't have the means to stop Russia getting through, you bring AA from your frontlines back to defend places like this it opens up your military at the frontlines you leave it to caover at the frontlines you leave your cities open to getting infrastructure like this destroyed. This will take years to make a power plant like that again. Then your rerouting power from other parts of the country to supply there and if they get hit which they are then that's added pressure on top again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    There's plenty of blame for the Biden administration in addition to Trump and his various followers. Being very slow with certain weapon deliveries. Things like merely a platoon of tanks after the Europeans have dumped considerable inventory. Announcing intentions not to send certain classes of weaponry only to do an about turn around several months later. That's before you delve into the moral implications of giving them enough to fight rather to win.

    Seen the suggestion thrown around that the aim is to bleed the Russians white and given the actions on occasion of the West, it's hard to disagree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    The cowardly behaviour extends further than Washington let's not forget. Where is the urgency for christ sake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Nobody here knows what the situation is with regard to ammunition stocks in the US. Very few people in the US I’m sure actually know it either. This war is a very high attrition war that is already a third of the length of time of world war 2. And neither the US or anywhere in the west is on anything like a war footing. Are new military factories being built? . Are military factories working 24/7 ?
    I think the weapons stocks are running low. That is the only logical explanation. There is zero political will to shift to a war economy anywhere in the west. With concerns in other theatres there can be no doubt strategic stockpiles of weapons are under serious pressure these last 2 years. In my opinion that is what really is going on and the political stuff is just a smoke screen. If Russia and China thought the west was running low they would be emboldened. But they can only keep this smokescreen for a very limited time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Why are the US scrapping 100s of Bradley’s instead of sending them to Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Have to ask if they want Ukraine to win or just want Russia to bleed.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Something has to change. This cannot continue the way it is.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    The appointment of Michael Johnson was turning point - this is just a result of it. I have being trying to tell ye this for months but people here still think that it's just a battle of GDP.

    It's a battle of will, and the west fell well short.

    Hopefully our clown leadership is preparing for 10-15 million refugees in the next 18 months....



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    All the ammo in the world is no use when the senate is blocking them. USA has around 5.5 million rounds of 155mm cluster ammo that they could start sending as soon as the senate is unclogged. That would neutrailize the human wave tactics used by russia.

    Standard 155mm production in USA will hit 70k a month by the end of this year. The Czechs managed to find a nice cache of ammo too which should start to arrive in June that will fill the void nicely until the USA can sort out it's cultist taint in politics. Trumps odds of victory is slipping by the day and a lot of markers point towards a blue wave come election time.

    Ignore the waves of kremlin scutter propaganda that Ukraine will fall soon or that it's on it's own nothing could be further from the truth. russia squeals loudest when it senses danger and it's been squealing an awful lot lately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    There are 5.5 million cluster shells in US arsenal [each one containing 80ish bomblets that Ukrainians have attached per drone], the bill in congress includes funding for increased conventional artillery production including a gun powder plant in the speakers own constituency. There are thousands of older M1 and M2 and F16s sitting around too

    The block is purely political by the MAGAots not capacity wise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    It is Biden's responsibility to sort this and it would be sorted if it was given priority.

    Biden foolishly imho fell straight for Russian's divide and conquer strategy. Encouraging their buddies in Iran to encourage their buddies in Hamas to attack and thus lead to the vicious war being raged by Netanyahu with Biden sucked in.

    He should have seen that a mile off and warned Israel very severely at the start of their retribution that US support would be limited for a few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Bad to worse it seems. And i think Zelensky gave a speech earlier saying BLUNTLY and as a plea - they will lose this war if they dont get the weapons from US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    The GOP have the house, which they are using to block the bill. Biden's team have found solutions, loopholes where they can deliver e.g. missiles for the Hawk anti-air systems, seized Iranian weapons/munitions destined for the Houthi's being sent to Ukraine and so on.

    "Just be a good president" is hilariously vague, can you explain what Biden should have done to get that aid passed without sacrificing crucial votes for the upcoming election..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    More on this .. WE ARE reaching a crucial stage in this war now. Matter of weeks away to a result we may not like I think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's not just about the current funding. Under the lend lease act, Biden send zero aid. His reasoning was Ukraine would be on the hook financially for any equipment sent under the act. But Biden should also been forward thinking, that once the current aid package ran out, there was a chance a new one could be stalled by Congress.

    Biden also has the power to send surplus and obsolete equipment to Ukraine, if he chooses to. Like all those cluster shells that the US will never use again, Bradley's being scrapped etc...

    Granted none of the above will unlock the current aid package by the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    The Russians now saying publicly that UK forces are operating inside Ukraine coordinating attacks on Russian troops. I'm guessing this is another another red line the Kremlin cowards won't won't be acting on..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed but lend-lease expired, during which time aid was being sent to Ukraine. If he had evoked lend lease on top of what was being sent it would almost certainly have triggered a GOP block for sure (as opposed to an uncertain future block). So I can see why that was not so straightforward.

    As for the drawdown on obsolete equipment, EDA, he seems to be saving that for a last minute critical emergency. While there's still hope of passing the 60bn I don't think he'll use it, however if that 60bn is completely hopeless OR the situation changes dramatically in Ukr then I think we might see it used. Keeping in mind that the 60bn is infinitely, infinitely better than EDA stock for Ukraine.

    Personally I think it's a lot more complex (politically) than it appears on the surface. Made worse by the fact that it's a critical election year in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    if the plan was to bleed russia dry, and i think it was, then it has failed spectacularly. Time for a massive strategic re think… I am not saying nuke moscow but the west needs to show some strength



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Insane how one guy having sex with a teenager has doomed the Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    No EU budget until Ukraine gets 7 patriot systems!

    EU parliament unlike the US congress is doing something

    Did the Irish MEPs for the “Moscow” constituency vote against the motion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭zv2


    Some months back Biden increased 155mm shell production by a factor of 6.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    It is likely that the Patriot systems are worthless as they will have no missiles to use!

    Russia ramped up production. The west didn't. Checkmate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    "Encouraging their buddies in Iran to encourage their buddies in Hamas to attack"

    Never heard this particular conspiracy theory before. It sounds like a whopper though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    To a total of 3200 shells per day... Which was only going to be reached by 2026 or 2027. Russia is already multiples of that. Not that it matters how many the US produce given they aren't supplying them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Both the PAC-2 and PAC-3 missile production is being ramped up 75% and and IRIS-T production is being tripled this year and doubled next year, NASAM production has doubled.

    I've no clue what the Russian ramped up figures are, maybe you can let us know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    But but but, Russians are relying on WW2 equipment and rubbish from North Korea… any argument against their complete incompetence means you're a ruSSian troll??

    So much rubbish posted on here at times over the past 18 months, when all that some people were trying to tease out was what is now coming to light.

    It's galling to see Russian rockets starting to inflict damage again after such a long period when Ukraine had the ability to defend against them. I still think we're a long way off a Ukrainian collapse - their ground troops have been more than a match for what Putin has sent against them - hopefully it's 'just' a case of having to grin and bear some more aerial bombardment until Ukraine get's what it needs to shore up defences and start hitting back again.

    The West must be so proud of its efforts so far. They're either playing an immoral game of politics where innocents die every day, or they're shambolically incompetent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Another 1 hit.

    Screenshot_20240411_151417_com.android.chrome.jpg

    Not sure of the damage but if guide bombs and we're Fab 500 or bigger then expect considerable damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    PAC2 is going from 20 to 35 per month... In 2027. Those figures are a joke in war time.

    PAC3 is going from 500 to 650 per year... In 2027.

    Much of that production is already ear marked for other customers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




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