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Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Packrat


    You know, the great thing about the site is that we can all have opinions, and nobody has to agree with them or care what anyone else thinks of them.

    I posted as I believe to be true. You disagree. That's ok.

    I really don't care what you think of me or my opinions.

    Defending your friend is generally a noble admirable thing. Sometimes one should look at that friend's behaviour first though.

    Edit to add. You friend can reply here if they so wish, i doubt they are threadbanned here.

    I've told your friend exactly what I think of them and (quite rightly) had my own threadban for that in the past. So nothing "cowardly" going on here.

    Now, an admin has said they'll look into it, and that's enough for me.

    The thread has moved on. This is all dragging it off topic.

    Let's not carry this on pls.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    Slim the whole site forum structure down, way too overcomplicated. Keep archive for posterity and reference.

    Contact DigitalSpy (the only other Vanilla forum I know of) and get some advice from them in particular for their mobile site - way more traffic and their mobile site actually works properly.

    Stop doing ^^ (like the several examples above) for zero reason shutting down benign threads, is there a quota to be reached or what? Let threads run their course naturally.

    Yes, Wokeism thread cancellation was handled pathetically and made me consider whether it was woth sticking around. I'd prefer it be open to comments if resurrected as false wokeisms and ridiculous anti-wokeisms are good to be critiqued. The permanently offended can keep away if they so choose.

    On the plus side, I enjoy the tv/radio/film/bargains forums and get some good advice from some others elsewhere ranging from broadband/networks to plumbing so yes, boards is worth staying around for IF the issues outlined on this thread are even looked at and acted on from all angles. CA/politics threads - I now mainly read and thank occasionally as the continuing resident plague of ideologues/lowlevel trolls (from all 'sides') are too painful to engage with.

    Also, maybe institute a site improvement roadmap and have a structured open forum for various suggestions on different aspects of improving the site for users and for promoting it/new users. I know there has been two threads since the changeover (mainly pointing out the mess) but they never had structure to them. Oh, and keep users/contributors informed if asking for suggestions and finally get rid of the overcomplication of death by PMing moderation and the general administrative overcomplication of everything!

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Murt2024


    Nah I seen posters with 6000 posts and Beasty acting the smart ass with them, thinking he was trying to outsmart them and they never returned. A lot of posters outsmarted him and he couldn't take it and they got immediate bans or they left for good on their accord. Told Beasty to shove there account up his ****.

    Two things have killed this site, giving a lad in his 60's some what power and the new Vanilla Skin

    -----------------------------------------

    Individuals will not be discussed on thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    It's not all down to just "angry people preferring to be angry". I find that very dismissive.

    Many of the same issues have being brought up, again and again, by different posters, independant of each other.

    We can't all be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Murt2024


    Its like the song####

    I've been the year 2000, not much has changed but boards still lives underwater

    Its unreal, I get the mods are probably all in their 50's or late 40's but times changes owners.



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    We can't all be wrong

    You can all be angry though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭con747


    Any chance of the closed threads and disappearing threads with no explanations being addressed? If possible can you explain how a moderator could post in a thread closed 8 hours before their post as well?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Moderators can post in closed threads.

    All feedback in this thread will be looked at in the moderators forums. It's not just the userbase who would like to see some changes on the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭con747


    Thanks, I also asked Mike last year but nothing was done that I can see if the list of moderators could be updated because a lot are now gone if that could be looked at.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Fair enough, I can see I'm wasting my time here.

    I must say, that attitude doesn't exactly inspire my confidence that anything will ever really change.

    Has to be said, there are lots of sycophants on this thread as well, not just negative or angry people who want to bash mods.



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Ezeoul, I could say I'm wasting my time too. You have not posted one positive comment on this thread. I have given a lot of time to addressing points raised and bringing suggestions to moderators and admins. I have engaged with I think pretty much everyone who has posted on this thread over the past week.

    At one stage every post I made you replied trying to twist it to something that I didn't say. Today when asked for 1 positive thing you like about the site you couldn't name it. I could quite easily say you have been posting in bad faith on this entire thread and trying to engage with you on any sort of meaningful level is a complete waste of time. Low-level trolling I think you call it. Your general attitude to the site and on-threads doesn't exactly inspire my confidence that anything said here or any changes made will ever change your opinion of the site. You have no interest in the site, you have no interest in being a positive presence on the site and and you have no interest in making a positive contribution to the site.

    Yet you are here, all day every day making yourself miserable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭con747


    I have received invaluable information on numerous threads here and hope I have given some back to others and have about 30 odd threads I have bookmarked which are fairly active from food/renewable energy/bargains/motors/diy and so on and try to contribute as best I can. I think in my latest reincarnation here I received a couple of warnings and maybe a couple of thread bans which I got removed via PM with mods.

    It's not the worst of sites but needs a hell of a lot of work to be done from everyone from members and the powers that be to keep it flowing without a lot of the bitching that goes on. I hope it survives for a long time to go. That's my positive of the site.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    It's a pity the prison forum is gone though, I'm sure there's plenty of 'feedback' there

    Much like the dispute resolution forum, I know there's useful feedback there that's been ignored (probably from angry posters being angry tbf, but if you haven't been on the wrong end of a moderator decision, you hardly have relevant feedback to give)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭REDBULL68


    Indeed, this is a public forum ,in a Republic which free speech is written in the constitution ,yet some here won't even let you talk about a case ,that is not in the Republics Jurisdiction, why ,technically its a different country, England has no problem talking about it or Ireland to that matter, so what's the problem, its either a discussion site or not .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Firstly, don't mistake having a browser open, for "being here all day every day".

    You're not above turning things personal yourself now, I see. I have not made any personal remarks directed at either you, or any named mod on this thread - yet because I'm not sugar-coating things for you, or telling you what you want to hear, you're turning nasty with me because you don't like what I have to say.

    Also, sorry if you don't like my posts elsewhere. Considering how infrequently I visit the personal issues forum, or how rarely you step outside of it, I'm surprised you even see them, let alone are in a position to judge me, and my contributions as basically, worthless. I have also never made any mention of "low level trolling". I never got involved in that part of the discussion at all and I don't tro. Some very low blows on your part.

    I asked some questions, and gave my views here, honestly. Sorry (again) if you're taking offence on behalf of Boards for that. My mistake, I thought this was supposed to be an honest exchange of views. Instead, now you're turning it around and accusing me of posting in bad faith, trolling, and attacking me as a poster in general.

    Thanks for proving to me that I'm not wrong, and this thread will turn out to be just another waste of time.

    You're also right that I don't believe it will lead to any meaningful changes. Why should I believe that, when at every turn you are looking to shift blame to everyone except the moderation team for the problems that do exist?

    I'll leave it at that. I'll expect the warning / threadban in my mailbox imminently.

    Goodnight.

    Post edited by Ezeoul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭REDBULL68


    Just to follow up ,if we can't discuss court cases in other countries ya may as well delete all the donald trump thread's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,833 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Indeed you are dragging off topic with your comments about another poster . .an apology to that poster for the sxxxy behaviour would have been appropriate not from just you , two others involved in this here today whom I have had words with earlier about the same thing .

    I was quite happy not to continue this and would have preferred not to be doing this here in front of the site but it really is not on , the way people have been behaving on those threads and ye just want to take a good long look at yourselves .

    Never mind be asking others to look at THEIR behaviour , and the other two as well , sniping and bullying just because others have and are well able to express their own opinions but don't agree with you .

    And coming on here to supposedly continue with impunity ?

    Anyway said all I will say for now and will take whatever consequences I have to for this ..

    Because that's what adults do .

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    A good time to do that would probably have been when Boards moved to this new platform. It still tries to be a platform for everything on the internet, but there are way too many categories and sub-subforums.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Letting threads evolve "naturally" would just lead to discussing the same things in every thread, and no-one would be able to follow any discussions.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    @Ezeoul your first post on this thread said "I'll probably get a warning for this" yet here you still are, no warning.

    You seem determined that your posts are not going to be liked by the moderators or admins. I have commented on some of your posts and your reply has been "sorry you don't like my post". I neither like not dislike them. I'm just discussing.

    You yourself admitted that there is nothing positive about the forum. That you're here out of bad habit. From that I assume you also mean you don't even like posting here. So again I'm taking that to mean you don't even see your own contributions as positive. I said I didn't believe that you were getting nothing positive from the site. You reiterated that you couldn't think of anything. From that I assume you're pretty fed up (miserable?) posting here but can't stay away.

    I've said it elsewhere on the thread that you'd make an excellent opposition politician because you argue against every point put forward. You have no idea what changes will be implemented. Yet are deciding nothing will change.

    I have not hidden behind any "mod powers" on this thread. I have been open and honest. I have acknowledged a lot of excellent feedback and things that need to change. I have not blamed the posters for all the problems. Of course posters have their part to play too as they are the userbase. But if the site is to continue to move forward it will take changes, both in moderator and poster behaviour. That is not in doubt.

    But much as you think you're wasting your time I am absolutely certain I am wasting my time trying to discuss anything with you, because you are immoveable in your stance. That's ok. I'm not here to change your mind. But just because you are unlikely to adjust yourself don't assume everyone else is too. The site will continue. You will no doubt continue to post. I just hope at some point you actually start to get some benefit from the site. Even if it's just the thrill of getting a moderator to argue with you, but not ban you!

    (I am going to leave it there because there is nothing worse for posters than watching 2 posters locked in a circular argument. We are not going to agree, you are absolutely going to disagree with every point in this post, but that's ok. We don't need to agree but we can still move on)



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,555 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Now... Is there anything to be said for getting back to a few positive suggestions. It went well, for a few posts!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Some of the posts in this thread remind me of a scene in Tom Clancy's Book, Red Store Rising.

    First Lieutenant Michael Edwards: Let's have an attitude check!
    Tower crew: I hate this **** place!
    Edawrds: Let's have a positive attitude check!
    Tower crew: I'm positive I hate this **** place!
    Edwards: Let's have a negative attitude check!
    Tower crew: I don't like this **** place!
    Edwards: Let's have a short attitude check!
    Tower crew: Fuckit!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    I had a rough day yesterday and the Trivially Annoying posts made me smile!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,285 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    If following has been said before apologies.

    Would changing thread titles to make them more Google search friendly help traffic?

    In the (inferior brand of 😃) Rugby forum, you have popular and busy threads dedicated to the Provinces. As an example Munster's thread is called:
    Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

    Would that get more eyes from the almighty Google if it included keywords like Rugby, News, Discussion in the thread title?

    Munster Rugby Team Talk, News and Discussion thread - Witty bit at the end.

    I've no idea, but I'd be interested to know if this kind of thing makes any difference at all, or is it as I suspect, pissing in the wind.

    As a suggestion for what boards can do, bring Soccer and Ranting and Raving out of Groups, allow anyone to post and put it with the rest of the forums.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,816 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    You facilitate more positivity across forums/the site by removing relentless, grinding, contrarian negativity.

    Post edited by osarusan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I wouldn't worry. It's the same handful complaining about Mods again. It's not representative.



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like to share my knowledge especially in the area of DIY energy efficiency and Campervans (though that has gone a bit dead of late). I like the fact that you can get a quick response to technical questions in an Irish context. My first post, and the reason for joining in the first place, was when I was running my car on home filtered veg oil and there was a bit of a buzz around that whole area back then.
    I enjoy the political discussion but find there is a lot of the sort of trolling from the right wingers here and it will kill a discussion dead. I have been moderated and thread banned and ultimately I think there is just about the right balance between open discussion and closing down the personal hate that tends to creep in.
    I personally think that the forum is doing fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,145 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Why do I still use boards?

    Well, a lot of it is habit. Being here for years - but aside from just habit I still enjoy a lot of it.

    I like how it's a big catch all forum with an Irish slant. You can find conversations about a wide variety of subjects. There's some great knowledge and great posters still on here. I use Reddit - or, more accurately,I look at it - but I just find the conversations more natural on here. I like how many good threads and forums have been going for years. A lot of good posters and knowledge are no longer here - but there's still many good posters and threads etc to be found.

    I tend to avoid CA in the main I think posting in there is largely a waste of time. I think if you spend the majority of your time there you'll probably have a very different impression of the site than people who never go near it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    @Big Bag of Chips I know we are keeping it positive but one way would be that when a poster slanders two others and it gets ignored, that makes for a negative experience. Thanks in advance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    You yourself admitted that there is nothing positive about the forum. That you're here out of bad habit.

    For the record, while I did say I was here out of habit - I never said there was "nothing positive" about the forum.

    However, after being told (by an Admin) on thread that I contribute nothing to the site, I am done here.

    I'm out.

    Post edited by Ezeoul on


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