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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Claim RTÉ 2FM has had no cuts … is not a claim.

    The claim is and the truth is that 2FM has been given licence fee funding since 2011 and has large not seen any cuts to its funding. It has gone from a self-sufficient broadcaster to one that now need licence fee funding, while RTÉ at the same time cut funding to Children's content and Independent Drama and Comedy.

    Your proof of cuts RTÉ NEWS: bulletins cut from 2fm

    On several occasions on this thread I point out that RTÉ ONE, 2 and 2fm have all seen cuts to news bulletins. As have others

    RTÉ ONE's morning (from 10AM) bulletins have all disappeared (TBH I am surprised they still have the bulletin during the TODAY show). RTÉ ONE's weather remains on during the morning hours. RTÉ ONE has also drop its late night News Bulletins.

    RTÉ2's has drop all news and current affair (save for News2Day) again this was point out many many times.

    While RTÉ made the decision to drop all news programming after 7pm and during the weekends, because RTÉ 2FM is a music station and people don't go to the station for news according to RTÉ… but they do go to RTÉ2fm for a daily sports programme and sports bulletins.

    Yes RTÉ cut to their public service broadcasting remit on each service, while they keep sports and weather going because …. you can get a sponsor for them.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Surely 2FM would use the same source or news bulletin as RTE radio or whatever other RTE radio stations run the news bulletins. We see this with stations that are all under the same umberella like Newstalk all sharing the same bulletins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,469 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Question that needs to be asked.


    Have any of the ‘talent ‘ have had their outrageous wedges cut.

    I’m aware of contracts ….and stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Wireless set of Radio stations use Newstalk national news at night also. (Ironically this started when UTV Ireland had set up their own national news studio for TV!).

    RTÉ just came up with a fanciful reason to drop News on 2FM. Technically, as was once pointed out on boards, when RTÉ were bragging that 2FM were not in receipt of licence fee funding, 2FM news was getting licence fee funding as it came from the RTÉ News department, so therefore RTÉ 2FM did get some licence fee funding, but nothing like the amounts given over the last few years.

    I don't really understand why the Sports reader can't also read the news.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is there not some of NUJ newsreader issue, going back to the dispute with Chris Carey/Radio Nova days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭political analyst


    What exactly was this NUJ issue? Was it about the prospect of sportscasters being made redundant?

    By the way, I never heard of Chris Cary until you mentioned him. In 1998, he was jailed in Britain for a scam.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ex-pirate-radio-chief-jailed-for-30m-sky-card-scam/26188838.html

    There's a Wikipedia page about him under his alias 'Spangles Muldoon'. He died of a stroke in 2001.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spangles_Muldoon

    Here's a Hot Press obituary.

    https://www.hotpress.com/music/chris-cary-passes-away-4480623



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @Tow @political analyst if it is an NUJ/union issue it is just part of RTÉ and the Unions cold war.

    RTÉ have jumped around any agreements with the Unions over the years and the union have imposed rules that have lead to RTÉ unable to produced content.

    My theory is that RTÉ don't produced A morning show due to the unions and union rules, RTÉ take their news break in August, RTÉ's afternoon show takes a break during the summer months, RTÉ deciding not to put Fair City on the player until they could get agreement from the UNION or on +1, RTÉ decision to axe an episode of Fair City but to stop production during the Summer months and so on.

    It's a cold war IMO.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    On RTÉ's news break it was extend until today, coming from Easter Weekend, a massive news story north of the border breaks and RTÉ are on holidays until today! Crazy stuff.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    near choked on me coffee when i read that…doubt thats ever going to happen cause of "contractual obligations" "legaly binding" "confidentiality clauses" "legal advice precludes" and "we are under siege from the bbc for our talent" oh,near forgot "noel kelly says we cant and we've to pay them a shite ton more money"

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://goss.ie/featured/this-is-why-bryan-dobson-decided-to-leave-rte-375423

    Yeah sure it is Brian. It amazes me that they did ask about the controversy surrounding RTÉ, no one will even remember him that well.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think that it had to do with Nova using news material from other stations and TV channels.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭political analyst


    For legal reasons there's a limit to what can be said about that story and so RTÉ's 'news break' had no impact on their coverage of that story. RTÉ have to conserve their resources so they can cover elections and referenda sufficiently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    So is Dobson getting an exit package for retiring a year before his 65th bday? What is the point of giving exit packages to staff who have a clear role?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Leader of the DUP resigns. RTÉ reports is due to an arrested due to alleged historical sexual offences.

    There is really nothing after this in relation to his resignation as party leader. The DUP are the second largest political party north of the boarder, they are key to Stormont. RTÉ should be covering the political fallout of the departure.

    It is a great pity that Leo didn't resign at a weekend, so that everyone could defend RTÉ news coverage.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am just waiting for Terence O’Rourke to appear before the Oireachtas and a huge number of people saying how he's far better than Suin Ni R, how he looks like he's making real progress and things are changing…

    … in the position a month an not a single word from the man.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭political analyst


    RTÉ had discussion of the fallout on its radio and TV news programmes. No political ramifications have happened in NI so far. So it wouldn't carry as much weight as the death of former Taoiseach Albert Reynolds, which was during the summer break but still meant an hour-long Six-One and a Prime Time special.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Are they just wonderful being able to rush off their schedule holidays just like that.

    Can I ask why do they take so many long breaks, and why have the cut so many news bulletins? Is it because of the existential crisis or the millions they are spending on consultants? Maybe its the 25k car allowances?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Id say the government will do nothing about RTE or the license fee between now and elections. They will kick the can down the road. No better person than the minister.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Six-One on weekdays has always been reduced by half during the summer holidays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    RTE's afternoon does indeed take a break over the summer and to replace it they have the best of The Afternoon show from the season that just finished.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Just who was being served by this "public service broadcaster"?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/04/06/rte-executives-spend-175000-on-corporate-credit-cards-in-hotels-bars-and-restaurants/

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dee-forbes-used-rte-credit-card-to-fund-400-leaving-do-lunch-the-day-before-she-was-told-to-resign/a1633196774.html

    Every time that someone from RTE or some apologist in the media claims that RTE is a PSB, it should be pointed out that it is not.There are people in RTE with a public service ethos and who believe in the value of such a service but the articles above will be difficult reading for them. They've been as much betrayed as the licence fee paying public if not more so.

    Regards…jmcc

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭JVince


    Did you read the article?

    That's expenses over FIVE years.

    Frankly I see very little wrong with the figures.

    Example of Dee Forbes - it's less than €250 a month.

    I would be higher than that myself on company card for similar items. Eg Staff member leaving/ having a baby / getting married - all = flowers+ a gift.

    Supplier coming over from UK or Germany, I'd take him to dinner. Easy €150.

    Total tabloid nonsense

    If it was an annual spend, there'd be a story. But this is a 5 years accumulation to attempt to create a story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Dee Forbes is still too “unwell” to answer for her actions as DG.

    Maybe she’s just still hungover from all the wining and dining she did on the company credit card, at our expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Do you work in the public sector? Because if you do, and you’re spending public money in the way you say you are, the C&AG will want to have a word



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭JVince


    No, my own company and I like to treat staff as people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭jmcc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    Yeah so the rest of us we treat others as people on our own dime. Regular people can't expense gifts , cards, flowers to work colleagues. Not sure why those regular people should be paying TV license so that RTE staff can do that with public money.

    It's small yes, but public bodies need to be accountable and fair, you can't collect money off tax payers to then treat yourself nicer than those taxpayers do.



  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't see the fuss, the spending was over 5 years. Kevin no longer allows flowers as an expense. This is probably due to Revenue's ERR rules rather then cutbacks.

    As to the Public Sector commenters. I have been fed and watered as a supplier at the tax payers expense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Presumably, Forbes was excessively priveledged and rewarded grotesque truckloads of public money due to her percieved resolve, capability and ability to handle pressure.

    Yet, when the time came to answer for her immorality she suddenly became a feeble wretch, unable to defend herself in public.

    Is there a single person in the country who believes she is not pretending to be sick?



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