Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

Because the government has no intention of building a metro ever (and never did) and constant naysayers make shelving the project more easy to achieve.

What is a "Carbon Cult"?

Are you saying carbon emissions are not a major problem?

Metro North is one step (of many) to solving this, scientifically proven, problem.

Effectively you are claiming that:

So 5/6 years ago, the government ministers of the time got together and decided NOT to build a metro (having resurrected the idea) but instead to spend hundreds of millions just to create an hugely elaborate show to "fool the people"? The sneaky plan has managed to remain completely secret despite a number of cabinet changes in the mean time and it involving people from ministerial level to low level civil servants.

In the meantime the government has been planting and encouraging negative media stories so that public opinion turns against the project.

Do you have any idea of how batshit insane this sounds?

I'm sure Jim would have objected to the Green Line tie-in also.

This seems fine. The station is well designed and by the time passenger flow becomes an issue, we should have (hopefully) built the tie in with the Green Line

I know it won’t ever happen and I know there are probably good project reasons why it won’t happen here but LA are building a new metro line and it will open in phases. The first three stations from Downtown will open in 2025 and the rest in phases over the next two years.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5R0WDUPygk/?igsh=Y3VzajdhOTg4ZDFw

I believe the plan currently is to open the Swords/Airport section first and the tunnelled section later. Or at least the Northern section will have test running.

if you are in government and it’s possible to open that first section, you’d be utterly mad not to.

Haven't seen any mention of a phased opening in the market sounding or information provided by TII to date. Maybe I missed it. It'll be an important consideration for the M500 package at tender stage so that they can design and sequence works accordingly, and order the rolling stock.

Obviously there would be some uptake but would there be much trip generators from opening north of the m50? I suppose it would be good to test the system when demand isn't so high.

I wouldn't expect it to be something mentioned in the high level information available to the public. Undoubtedly the two civil contracts from the M50 north will be completed first so it makes sense from everyone's perspective to progress with fitting these out before the tunnel is complete. Once the civil works are completed, TII will want to hand them over to the PPP company, otherwise they are liable for securing and insuring the site.

Rolling stock will go into production soon after award of the PPP (after detailed design is completed and signed off). Obviously sets will be completed in batches over several years. The manufacturer won't want to have completed stock sitting in their facilities for years, they will want to get it to the depot at Dardistown as quickly as possible (and their pricing will almost certainly be based on that). They will certainly be bringing to operationally ready and testing and commissioning the new systems before the tunnel is completed (trying to do everything at the end would be a huge risk).