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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    Derry's kickout so impressive. They found space and exploited it so many times - cant remember the last time Dublin gave up so many goal chances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes they did well on the kickouts. But a top class midfield allows them to vary it and keep the Dubs guessing.

    Good mental resolve to win it after seeming to blow it in normal time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Not nonsense about a semi final being a job well done, just realism, because at the end of the day we were humiliated in Croke Park by Dublin last year , now we’re going back with pretty much the same team, playing the same football & expecting a different result?? Like we go missing in games far far too often to compete at the top. We’re too passive, too lateral & nothing suggests that is going to change anytime soon. I mean I don’t know how anyone could think we’re anywhere near an All Ireland based on our current approach.

    Also 2020 & 2021 were completely different formats, so not much of a comparison to now.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is so true.

    Apart from a good full back line that for the most part had a good league, Mayo have absolutely nothing new to offer this year.

    Plus, Dublin and Kerry have got no worse and Derry have got better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Have to agree with all of that. I also think the psychology is not great with the current crop. The heads drop far too quickly if a game takes a turn against them. There is a flakiness about them, I fear.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The lateral passing thing really has me baffled. Regardless of the players available we have always been at our best when we attack and bring about a bit of chaos. Maybe it's some sort of admission that we haven't the players for that anymore or else it's a ultra-careful approach so as not to get overturned and vulnerable to counter attacks. Whatever the reason it's not an easy watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Exactly, 2011 - 2019, we played some brilliant football, I saw rewatched a bit of the second half of the first game against Kerry from 2014 recently, it really was phenomenal stuff , light years from where we are at now and we really have become very difficult to watch. Derry remind me so much of Mayo 2011/12 before the demolition team of 2013.


    But all that said, this is a very young team, so a semi final would represent progress. Two semi finals for Derry in the last couple of years & they’ve pushed on again now.

    For me getting to a semi final has always been a big deal because you’re winning a knockout game at a high level. Look at Donegal , after 2014, multiple failures at the quarter final & then they just faded out. If Big Jim didn’t come back, god knows where they were headed . Getting to semi finals regularly, puts you in the conversation for AIs , Mayo won’t be making finals every year but semi finals should always be in reach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes and even go back further to 06 when we had quite an average team carried by McDonald. We threw caution to the wind and scraped by against Dublin. Unlikely we would have got through that by playing safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,023 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Last year everyone was complaining that we were too open at the back and coughing up goals. Now we seem to have got on top of that the same people are complaining that we don't have an attacking threat.

    The same people are also saying we peaked too early last season by winning the lead. Now the complaints are we don't look ready at all.

    Ye can't have it both ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Its not about having it both ways. We were open at the back last year because we played a forward at 6 who didn't understand the position. That has been addressed with personnel and defensive formations not through ponderous attacks.

    We did peak too early last year. I think most people agree with that. That's a separate issue to attacking issues.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I think you need to ask that point more of some supporters?

    Legs go to jelly as soon as things are not working for the team.

    Used to be lads throwing headbands on the ground outside Hyde Park when we didn't win a Connacht final. I guess the modern equivalent is lads being comically negative and having mini meltdowns online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yeah throwing headbands on the ground is what makes all the difference. Nothing to do with coaching standards and player development.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Barlett


    I agree with a lot of this but it’s difficult to have much of an attacking threat when we keep players midfielders/defenders in forward positions. It may have been a challenge game in all but name but it was depressing to see Mayo start 9 defenders against Monaghan made worse by the fact that they had named a genuinely exciting looking team on paper a couple of days before.

    Anyway as I said, they are definitely capable of last four and who knows from there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Personally, I think our current position can be summed up in 3 sentences:

    From 1-8, we are good enough to win an All-Ireland.

    From 9-15, we are not.

    If anything happens to O'Donoghue, we'll have a very short summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    I agree with you. Our attack is so basic without Ryan O'Donoghue.

    Just out of curiosity, who do you think is the number 8 midfielder that is All-Ireland quality?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    In the St faq it says:

    "You must purchase tickets to 6 Championship games in Football to qualify to buy All Ireland Final tickets" should mayo qualify.

    Couldn't get a coherent answer from hq, if New York automatically counted as one of those for those of us that can't make it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Last year would have needed to buy a ticket to all championship games bar one (opt out) to qualify for a ticket.

    Also the NY game hasn't been considered a season ticket game since ive first bought one and I'd wager since the beginning.

    Any season ticket holders heading to NY will need to source tickets elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Before I reply, can I emphasise that the key words from my original post are "current position". At the moment, Carney is our number one midfielder because he is the only one fit and in form. Is he good enough to win an AI? Yes, I think so. We have other midfielders who are also capable of being one but are nowhere near it at the moment for one reason or other:

    Ruane - POTY 21 in the bag only for the final. Form fell off a cliff since and rightly dropped, possibly later than he should have been. Showed a glimpse of a return to form v Derry (his best game in 3 years) and could be an AI winner. If he finds form, does he start at 9, 10 or 11 though?

    Diarmuid - has barely played all year and currently injured/recovering from injury. An absolute definite AI winner when he is in form, but does he start at 9, 10 or 11? Personally, I think he should be at 9 as he needs to be in the middle, he always played his best games there.

    IMO, they are 2nd and 3rd (but in what order at the moment?) for MF when fit and in form. Then, in no particular order, you have the likes of Coen (can play in a multitude of positions and could do a job at 9), Flynn (better at 12), Tuohy (one for the future, not ready for 9 yet), McBrien (needed at 3 or 6), Loftus (injured, but a half forward anyway), AOS (that ship has sailed) etc. Are they good enough for midfield in an AI final? Some yes, some no. But feel free to disagree! 😉

    The NY game has never counted towards your attendance on your season ticket. This game was never a ticketed game until this year (due to the anticipated crowd), it was always first come, first served on the gate for a number of reasons e.g. unfair on those who couldn't travel over, number of Mayo ST holders bigger than capacity of the ground etc. Sure there wasn't even an option for ST holders to purchase (they went straight on general sale), so how could you buy one? In other words, don't worry about it. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Previously the ny v Mayo game in ny would not be included as the first championship game ticket, which was included with the ST. We had one opt out after that.

    Now it's 6 games to qualify for an AI ticket. I was just wondering if it was counted as the 1 of the 6.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭HBC08


    The NY game is not included.

    After that it's 7 games (if no replays) to get to an All Ireland.If you include one opt out that leaves 6.

    That may be where they are getting that figure from.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    U20s well beaten by Leitrim. Probably need a win now against Sligo in the final game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Wouldn't have expected Donnacha to be too high up the list of possible midfielders at the beginning of the year, but the job he did on Enda Smith would have him right in the conversation too depending on the type of matchup needed.

    Very disappointing night for the 20s. Never looked to get near the pace of the game and never got a handle on the Leitrim tactics (the man v man looked great and exciting versus Galway but left us badly exposed against McNulty & Honeyman). Andy, knowing a lot of our lads well, went after their weak point in the air and made hay with it. Honeyman, McNulty, Guckian, Oberwan and Cox all having superb games for them.

    Makes the group fierce exciting & wide open going into the final rounds (Galway finishing up next week and the rest of us the following week). Interestingly, Roscommon the only undefeated side. You could still make a genuine case for any of the 5 finishing in at least a semi-final spot, with everyone having it in their own control to manage if they win their remaining games, so all to play for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I was pleasantly surprised with his performance as well. Wonder what height is he?

    It would be great if he could be developed into a midfielder as he seems effective both defensively and attacking wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    He doesn't look to be quite at Aidan's 6'4" but looks clear of lads like Jack Coyne listed as 6'1"…. so probably 6'3"ish or just shy of it. Interestingly, he's one of the player profiles on the official site that doesn't list a height.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Might be just tall enough if he's good enough. Probably needs a few rough edges polished but he's still young.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,023 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    It's looks packed solid at the gealic grounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Music Box


    The porta-loos behind the goal look to be in constant use. Must be a few weak bladders out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    No replays on TV is annoying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Conor Hunt from Aghamore on for Paddy - seems like a strange sub to make, did he get any gametime during the league?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Hard to take much from that, not a great performance. Very reliant on ROD, Towey decent when he came on I thought



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