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Pubs and Clubs to get longer opening hours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,874 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The single annual cert would be vastly cheaper than currently yeah. Tens of thousands a year saving.

    The most recent proposed text got rid of the cap but they've got very quiet on it. Publicans are massively against it, they don't like competition and they're a strong lobby group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,844 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    One of the main aspects of the plan is to end "extinguishment" which is the current practice of a new pub having to buy an existing pubs licence same as taxis used to be.

    And obviously the same as taxis the current pub owners are against it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭techman1


    rte upfront was a funny watch at least. full of the pious anti alcohol brigade. why was there nobody there to represent the club scene ffs. yer one from alcohol action ireland saying our drink in shops is as cheap as it was 20 years ago😂.

    Yea I saw that, I thought it was very unbalanced, RTE went out with a camera to get the worst possible scenes on Harcourt St, that only lasts about 20 minutes as the clubs empty everyone out at the same time. You see the same and worse in every european city nightlife district. Most of the talking was left to oul wans from alcohol awareness, and reformed alcoholics like Hugh Wallace, these people have replaced the old Catholic Church as the modern moral police in trying to police what young people do. They were the same oul whingers you used to see on gay Byrnes late late show back in the 80s.

    For what it's worth covid did more to increase alcoholism here than any pub or nightclubs because people were sitting at home bored out of their minds drinking at home. The working from home phenomenon also contributed because they didn't have to show their faces at work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Sorry now but It is woke nonsense.

    Leo went over for a wkend in Berlin and said wow why can’t we have this in Ireland.

    There are many, many reasons why it cannot happen in Ireland.

    Makes me laugh when I hear ppl pontificating about the “night time culture and night economy”.

    In other words, drinking and drugging.

    Who is going to deal with anti social behaviour fighting and worse at 4:45 am ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,343 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Open it up, let the market and buisnesses make the choice. Won't make any difference to me, but 20 years ago, would have been delighted to have options where some bars and venues stayed open later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,844 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The term "woke" has truly lost whatever little meaning it had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Woke nonsense 🤣

    Hint of Helen Lovejoy off you. Next you'll be saying "won't someone think of the children"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,874 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    i respect your point BUT

    It will make a difference to you.

    You, me, everyone will suffer the effects.

    It will make a difference to Society in general -

    it has consequences on so many areas - public health, street crime, law and order, lack of public transport, night time worker’s rights, drug crime, alcoholism, to name a few.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,757 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    The "anti social behaviour" is 99 times out of a hundred caused by turfing thousands of people out into a limited infrastructure to take care of them, so maybe the obvious solution is to not turf everyone out at once?

    Seems to work in Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow, Cardiff, Nottingham and other UK cities that are as close a representative to Ireland as anywhere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,728 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The proposal is a ridiculous one, who exactly will it benefit to have establishments serving alcohol until 5 or 6am?

    Ireland isn't Spain or Greece where you have people on Sun holidays out to party for two weeks.

    There's not enough Gardai on the streets during the day time, so having people falling out of pubs/nightclubs in the early hours has massive implications for Crime and personal safety. Not even the punters but the workers getting home in the early hours when there's only too many scrotes around willing to take advantage of them walking the streets alone..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    This is true. Anyone familiar with Cork city will know in infamous fountain on the grand parade. It was like the purge at 2am on weekends. Not sure if it's like that now actually now that I think of it been a while since a was there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,844 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well if we don't have the Spanish party crowd then the clubs won't stay open.

    It's not mandatory for every club to avail of that licence.

    Personally I hate nightclubs but we used sometimes go to the 24hr bar in Empire casino when I worked in pubs in London.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Sorry now but It is woke nonsense

    Shark well and truly jumped 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    'I don't like it so you can't have it.' This is the Irish mentality. A country where folk can't mind their own business but feel a need to get involved in other people's business.

    The Rules-Based Order says boundaries can’t be changed except if you are not in the White Colonial Club, Palestinians, Syrians, and many others can have their lands handed over to genocidal death-cults or Jihadis, that’s the way of the world, innit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Do you think we should have no laws at all?

    Every law interferes with people's business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Where did I mention law in that post ? It's a social thing and a vulgar disgusting one at that.

    The Rules-Based Order says boundaries can’t be changed except if you are not in the White Colonial Club, Palestinians, Syrians, and many others can have their lands handed over to genocidal death-cults or Jihadis, that’s the way of the world, innit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Allinall


    The law decides that pubs and clubs have to close at a certain time.

    You can't have longer opening hours without changing the law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,623 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,623 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Helen McEntee is to blame for this inaction.

    She's completely useless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,921 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Folk pay the taxes needed to patch up alcohol related harm. Rightly so that they have input to the parameters of selling it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,874 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Alcohol consumers pay a nearly world-beating level of duty and VAT on the product.

    Removing the all-out-at-once rush that a single, early, closing time creates massively reduces the level of anti-social behaviour, reducing costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Congratulations, your Irish passport should be in the post tomorrow. I remember you posted that you were foreign but I can tell you that you are well and truly suited to this country. Killjoys is what ye are.

    The Rules-Based Order says boundaries can’t be changed except if you are not in the White Colonial Club, Palestinians, Syrians, and many others can have their lands handed over to genocidal death-cults or Jihadis, that’s the way of the world, innit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,623 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Which "folk" pay the taxes?

    The customers are tax payers like everyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Anti social behaviour will reduce if people leaving bars is staggered.

    Thars the major problem with the current system. Litererally 10s of thousands of people out in Dublin city centre around 2am, all trying to get a taxi or bus home and tempers flare.

    Staggering the closures so there is more even distribution of people travelling home will help the guards, the public, the transport etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    once again just to say on my behalf -

    I am not coming at this from a moral or religious view.

    My concerns are the societal consequences of the proposal.

    I don’t care if you want to sit in your house drinking all night - very little societal consequences although ruinous to your personal health if regular behaviour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,728 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Do you not think that if there was extended opening hours well into the early hours that it would mean that people would leave in smaller groups or alone, leaving them more open to being assaulted and robbed by criminals hanging around the city centre?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,542 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It won't change that situation which already pertains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    Don't drink myself believe it or not.

    This is the winner.

    Does anyone remember a political objection to a Dublin underground station proposal for OCS in the 80's ? Supposedly gangs would meet up fighting down under there. Someone must have had the bejaysus scared out of themselves after watching the MJ Bad video.

    The Rules-Based Order says boundaries can’t be changed except if you are not in the White Colonial Club, Palestinians, Syrians, and many others can have their lands handed over to genocidal death-cults or Jihadis, that’s the way of the world, innit?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I was in in Cork city today at 3pm. Drunk people out and about in the middle of the day. Should we have no alcohol sold at anytime so?



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