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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks that looks very handy. UK only atm but the FAQ says theyre working on establishing in other countries.

    As a single car household Id love to number spots but it isnt a go-er, theres 46 parking spots for 37 houses and a good few have 2 cars and a couple of houses have 3 so they are not going to vote themselves into a system that would only allow them 1 spot per house.

    However it being a small estate most people know each other and I know the thing stopping a few people getting an EV is the lack of a charger. Im of the feeling that managed estates without designated parking have to come up with some sort of EV charging solution be it using a community charger or else installing charging points on lamp posts when the tech becomes a bit cheaper. So I hope to come up with some sort of solution using a dedicated EV parking & charging spot, otherwise I can never get an EV either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    This one is available in Ireland, but your sharing is open to the rest of the community who are signed up. Probably wouldn't be a problem in a private estate though. https://www.goplugable.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,820 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Are you saying the infrastructure is there to put in a charger and have it linked to your consumer unit? If that's the case I'd just put it in and work around charging when the space is free, have it app locked otherwise. The other option is to install a few and have them on the communal supply, each user would have to report their usage and pay thay amount across to the managemt Co, it's messy either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah that is an option but would leave me exclusively charging the car during the day time when the space beside my house is free. I may well go down that route but it would mean never being able to charge on the cheaper night rate as the spot beside my house is always occupied by the time I arrive home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Any option here is not really sustainable or planable. Other cars will be left in the spot even after charging. No way to enforce people moving. It's all supremely messy, hence my push to asign 1 spot to spot. People with 2 cars will have to sort it. Why you'd have 2 cars in such a small area is not sustainable anyway. So many compromises.

    I'd stick with a petrol hybrid.



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  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    With your other approach, there is no guarantee that someone else won’t park there at night and take advantage of your cheaper electricity rate.

    I really think you are leaving yourself open to problems if you start letting people charge their cars off your residential supply.

    Fit your own charger, lock the app so that only you can use it, park your car there when you can, that’s about the best you can do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks for this, seems like exactly what I am after. A platform that handles payments and bookings would solve pretty much all the problems with this idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yeah, it seems to tick all the boxes. Might be worth your while to sign up as a user first and try it out that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    thanks lister, I hear you and 1 space per 1 house would be the most equitable solution for all. Problem is the 2 car households are in the majority and turkeys dont vote for Christmas, etc. Ive a neighbour nearby in a cul de sac who has 3 cars and when I get home I cant park within about 70 metres of my own house because of this and others with 2 cars. Its a bone of contention because I work late hours and am last home so its like a giant game of musical chairs where Im always the one to lose out. And especially annoying as some houses are almost never up to date on their management fees and for us as Directors its like pulling teeth to get it out of them. And to make matters worse every car parked has to do so with 2 tyres up on the footpath, if they dont there isnt enough space for cars to drive through the place. The whole place is a disaster for parking after 7pm every day, it was tolerable up until last year until 4 single car households sold up/tenants moved out and they were replaced by 2-3 car households.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That's an all round ouch. Feel that pain. 😟



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Do I have to get the charger I specified on my grant application?

    Our house was fully rewired a few months ago, every cable in the house was taken out and the meter box was replaced along with a new distribution board. So hopefully it's all good to go.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Nope, I put Zappi down on my application and got an EQ, no issues with the grant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭grennscreener


    Anyone had a BG SyncEV charger installed?

    Looking at potentially getting one in. Don't need anything fancy, about the only things I'd like to have is the ability to charge over night and have an app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Skyfloater


    Hi All, I just plugged in our new BYD Seal into a 13 Amp fused socket with the supplied granny charging cable. But it's only charging at 1.6kw even though the battery is only at 7%. Does anyone know why it would not be drawing closer to the 3.2kw max?

    I understand that there are some AC->DC losses in the car of say 10%, but this would only bring the wattage through the socket to 1.8kw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Firstly, the 3.2kw is notional based on your circuit max load of 16A. In practice it's usually restricted by the car or charger to 10A and about 2.3kw.

    Is there anything else running on that circuit you've plugged into? This could limit the power that the charger will draw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It may have a 13A fuse, but it draws about 10A on the granny lead, so just a bit over 2.2kW.

    3.3-3.6kW is drawn with 16A EVSEs. 6.6-7.2kW with 32A EVSEs.

    So, the 1.6 is a bit low, but not that far off the expected draw if anything else is on the circuit. The state of charge on the battery doesn't really matter when you are talking such low charging speeds. You can get right up past 95% SOC before there is any change to the charge curve profile.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Skyfloater


    Thanks for the responses guys, I put in a dedicated circuit for that exterior plug today, so there's nothing else on the circuit. My voltage is nearer 240v. so a bit surprised at only 1.6-1.8kw of a draw.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,191 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Somethings wrong along the line. It should be 2.2-2.3kw on a standard 13a plug pulling 10a.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    You could check the charger using a different socket and if no change, try a different charger to rule out the charger itself. I wouldn't worry about it personally, but maybe you need the extra juice/time

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    On some of the granny chargers you can set the current draw, maybe yours is set to 6 Amp? It's ballpark around what your actually getting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Skyfloater


    Thanks, I will check out a different socket tomorrow, and see if there's any adjusting possible with the charger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Check the car isn't set to a reduced current in the settings. Granny charging is a waste of time. Are you planning on getting a proper house charger?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Depending on the use case, granny charging can be quite adequate. If you're not doing more than 50-100km a day, it may be quite sufficient and a home charger may not pay for its cost and installation in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Agreed...as long as you have an outdoor socket, or are willing to hang the granny out the window. Using an extension lead is not safe over several hours unattended.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Skyfloater


    I don't really have any option, after I plugged the granny charger and the car said charging time of 45 hours!

    It's a question of either the SEAI route(quote €1400*) or a charger off amazon.de at about €370 plus wiring and breakers.

    I don't need load balancing as we don't have a heat pump or electric showers, so I'm inclined to go the amazon route.

    *This is for a Zappi on our detached garage with a bluetooth to the harvi unit in the ESB box. If you're looking at amazon.de be sure to choose single phase, as it's not unusual for homes there to have a 3 phase supply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yeah, outdoor socket is best and easily fitted. Just find an inside socket backing onto where you would ideally like your outdoor socket (also preferably with little draw - bedrooms or a hall for example) and drill through the back, connect with a length of 2.5 squared, foam fill and mastic and you've the job done.

    And even if you subsequently get a home charger, an outdoor socket is always useful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I suffered granny charging for about 2 weeks when I had a phev with a 13kw battery, it was torture and that was getting the full 10A. In a big battery EV it would be dreadful it would be like driving in the 80s with £3 of petrol in the tank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Even more frustrating when an outlander PHEV was left plugged into a CHAdeMO fast charger and left there for hours, blocking everyone from using the charger.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I never bothered with AC public charging @ 3.6kw max it took too long it was easier just to use some petrol.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I worked of a Granny for 3 months whilst waiting for proper chargepoint, it's just a hump first world problem that will be sorted in time, no big issue plugging it in every night for a while



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