Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Theres a bit of a Shawshank Redemption theme here. Andy Dufresne was clean as a whistle on the outside, and had to go to jail to become a con. We were all upstanding citizens doing our bit for the environment by recycling via our green bin at home. All it took was a badly planned, poorly implemented, compulsory system being introduced for so many people thinking of ways to scam the system.

I had wondered why Aldi staff ripped up voucher when they were used.

Just noticed on my waste collection invoice "(including Government Incineration Fee)" €1.36.. WTF!

It would be an 'interesting' experiment purely for test purposes etc etc to take photos of a voucher on a phone and see if the image on the phone works at a self service checkout, potentially unlimited free money at the tap of a phone 😂.

I dont think there was a public consultation. I don't remember hearing anything about it.

With one of my recent Tesco deliveries I got a pamphlet from Tesco describing the DRS system and subtly saying "Bottom line, tough sh!t. We won't be collecting your empties".

I have been getting Tesco deliveries for about a decade now and from time to time get surveys to fill out. I will be highlighting the DRS in all my feedback forms from now on.

Browsing Tesco this evening for a delivery on Sunday, they have 2 for the price of one on packs of Guinness, but now it just says "+ deposit" no actually figure. I suppose saying +1.20 deposit might look bad.

It's been discussed before but the public consultation was an absolute sham for the size and impact of a project such as this.

Just wondering, if I and others buy eligible for return bottles/cans from one retailer, but redeem them at another retailer, how does this affect the selling retailer?

But if there is a significant amount of customers redeeming elsewhere, would this jeopardize their expected earning from RVM?

Save on fuel costs and your sanity driving around looking for one of these fúcking things that might accept a bottle.

Was there anything on the invoice about the DRS ?

What did you think was going to happen the plastic bottles?

Encouraging change, let them set up a proper integrated system.

Next step is the local elections - this is a good local issue (even if state policy) so burn the ears off any canvassers and don't vote for the feckers who implemented this.

Tried out the scheme the other day in Dunnes.

Bought bottle of water, drank it in the cinema, then went back after to claim the €0.15 (just to see how it all worked).

Got the receipt from the bottle machine (which was an ordeal to find as only a few staff knew were it was).

Then I queued at a till for a few mins, only to be told I had to go to Customer Service.

Went to Customer Service and it took 20 mins to get someone to come to the desk (apparently the only customer service staff member was on a break?).

In the meantime I just asked one of the girls at the off licence to give me the 0.15 as I couldn't be waiting that long, and she gave me 0.12 whereupon I decided to head off, only for the girl to finally come to the Customer service desk as I was leaving.

Got the 0.15 in small change.. 2 fives, 2 twos and a 1.

About 25 mins all in.

Like I said, it wasn't the money, was just the process I was interested in, but feck me, that's the last time I'll be doing that.

If they paid cash direct from the machines it might be better.

Good to note, if you buy the extra large 5l water bottles, they don't add this charge as the bottles won't fit. Just use a refillable bottle and fill from the 5L.

If you put them in the bin I suppose that's more likely.

I would question the legality of the fact that you can't use the voucher only in the shop where you brought the cans. It's the buyers money they should be able to spend it where they like. One supermarket says it's their terms and conditions but terms and conditions have to be legal.

I don't know if this law can be challenged. It may be legal but its not moral. I won't be buying any more cans or plastic bottles, bye bye Coke and Carslberg. Hopefully the producers will come up with a new container.

I agree with the person who said they wouldn't recycle. Currently we have to clean cans and recyclables so the bin companies are can get paid by us to collect them. Then they get paid again for the product . They should segregate the waste

Ill, old and disabled join everyone else working free for the bin companies. I won't.

But the trucks are filthy. Clean the bin and it comes back filthy from the truck. There's no law for them.

I saw someone who made similar points banned for trolling. I'm not trolling but I won't be working free for bin companies.