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Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭corkandproud


    Any know the standby rate for chargers? I think mine is eating electricity.

    I had an Easee One installed yesterday and it has it's own board. I saw that it used 2kW in an hour this evening for 2 hours (strangely it used 2Kw in from 12.30 to 19.30 before that)



  • Posts: 2,704 [Deleted User]


    It's neglible with mine (Zappi). How do you know it used 2kw?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭corkandproud


    The new fuse board has it's own power meter. It matched the usage while charging. Just got solar installed (seperately) and that's one of the reasons why I was tracking it.



  • Posts: 2,704 [Deleted User]


    I'd be thinking something isn't correct there. You shouldn't have more than a few watts over 24hrs unless charging.

    Does your inverter show the house load?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    That has to be a problem with your meter, there's nothing inside it to consume electricity. Try turning it off at the CU



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭corkandproud




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Leaving all the issues to one side, I think this shows why you should not be giving your full address to companies just for quotations, the general area will be more than sufficient for them to work out any additional travel costs etc. Even for you own data protection, there's no need to be firing your full details off to loads of companies until you actually pick one to go with. Hopefully you get sorted anyway.

    When you do get someone ask for a price for 16 and 25mm, 25mm tails should be minimal extra cost but will 'futureproof' it.

    So just to be clear, without the car charging that meter went from 117.xx to 119.22? If so, that's an issue. Try isolating it and see does that stop it.

    Also, looks like they raided their parts bin for that CU, ideally a newly installed CU would have all the same make of components as much as possible.

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭corkandproud


    I think it might be that the power meter is reading from the entire house supply. Installers are back next week so hopefully they will confirm this or fix it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    Would anybody have any recent experience of how long between completing a survey and order on the Ohme website how long it took for the installation to be arranged and done?

    I have a car ordered which is ready for collection but would prefer the charger in first



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭irishchris


    Just picked up a Nissan leaf 30kwh and looking around at zappi prices. Very hard to get installers to give quotes on installing . Did everyone here buy through installer and if so what was the combined price? Hard to find prices including installs online.

    Can you purchase the zappi direct online from any online store and get any reci electrician to sign off for the grant? Or do you have to buy direct from installer for grant



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,191 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Ring around. There’s set prices but that’s on the assumption of the house being capable and set up. Decent wiring, no strange loading etc

    Check out Fokearn, Eco Plex, Nigel Daly etx

    Then look into buying the charger yourself and getting RECI to install locally and see if there’s any savings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Typically installers get discounts on chargers. Even eBay is cheaper than zappis own website.

    Screenshot_20240309-085604.png

    The above ad says house must be built in last 2 years, as in be prewired for an EV charger.

    To be devil's advocate it can be hard to price the job depending on distance from fuse board, age of home, extra work if fuse board tails need upgrading etc. and distance from their home.

    Some can give a quote over the phone but may want picture of fuse board and charger location. Some do this with a WhatsApp video call so you can walk them through their check list.

    Typically prices include the 300 euro SEAI home charger grant already taken from the price, so expect to pay the full minimum or more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    This thread is brimmed with quotes though. Pages and pages of them. Literally a few clicks back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    I agreed to a quote on a Friday & the meter was installed the following Weds.

    They did ring me to see if it OK to push it a week but when they learned my car was arriving early they actually pulled it forward a day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Kevin Sharpe


    SOTA Electrical have posted an interesting video on YouTube regarding Zappi installation;

    "Today I want to share with you some interesting information that has come my way regarding the Zappi EV charger and the fact that it is a requirement to install a double pole Type A RCD upstream in order to carry out a compliant installation."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Irish installations have this and also isolators.

    He's based in the UK



  • Posts: 2,704 [Deleted User]


    From the Zappi manual.

    "Warnings  WARNING! An electric shock can be fatal; electrical connection work may only be carried out by a competent person 

     The earth conductor must be correctly installed and reliably connected 

     This device must be equipped with an over-current protection device of maximum 32 Amps (B32) Supply

    The single phase zappi should be connected to a 230V/240V nominal AC supply. The supply should run from a dedicated 32A circuit breaker. 

    The 3 phase zappi should be connected to a 400V, 4 wire, 3 phase supply. The supply should run from a dedicated 3 pole 32A circuit breaker. 

    We recommend the use of curve B circuit breakers.

     The zappi features an integral 30mA Type-A RCD with 6mA DC leakage detection in accordance with IEC 62955. Local wiring regulations should consulted to confirm whether an additional upstream RCD is also required."

    Standard practice to install a Type A RCD here with a chargepoint that has DC detection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    I'm looking to get a quote for a home charger installer so that I can send the quote to my landlord. I have the €600 grant because I applied the day before it went to €300.

    I've tried Bord Gais and I rang a couple of others but I couldn't get through to anyone today. Any advice on who I should contact for a quote? I'm based in Ballincollig, Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭irishchris


    Carcharger.ie we're the best price I found and install booked in



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    I applied for the SEAI grant on 31/12/2023 but I didn't get the letter of approval until 2/1/2024. Do I have access to the €300 or €600 grant?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    No, it doesn't seem to be. Where would I see it? This is all I could find relating to the grant amount:

    CleanShot 2024-03-20 at 12.48.45@2x.png

    This seems to imply that I would have the €600 but it also says "Letter of Offer Start Date: 02/01/2024".

    Dave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,760 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Just wondering the best way to solve this problem. I want to get an EV later this year but live in a managed estate with unassigned parking, its basically a free for all on a first come, first served basis and as many households have 2 and sometimes 3 cars getting parking anywhere is tricky. The gable side of my house is currently used to park two cars, theres a footpath of about 75cm wide along its length which is unused as it only leads to my back garden gate. At the front end of the gable is all the infrastructure for a EV charger- my fuse box & ESB meter are on that wall. So an EV parked next to it would be quite close to the charging unit, about a metre maybe 1.5m of charging cable from home to car charging port.

    What Ive thought of is one of two ways

    1. I buy the charger and the space next to my gable is painted green and marked out for EV only. Space can then be used by neighbours to charge an EV with them paying me for the kws used. Although the footpath isnt used for public liability reasons Id install a swinging arm on my gable to bridge the gap between it and the car. Or
    2. We get a company to set up a space somewhere else in the estate and again marked out green for EV only. People charging pay the company direct for use.

    Either way the only way Im getting this past the Board of Directors (of which I am one) is a set up where neighbours can use the charging. Theres no way I can just commandeer a parking space for myself when everyone else is unassigned and the spaces are common ground owned by everyone. But with a community use EV charging point I can get it past the Board because they too want to buy EVs in the future.

    Couple of questions- on 1 is there tech available to effectively create accounts/profiles so if a neighbour uses it I know their usage and so do they and can charge them accurately? Like is there an app which recognises what model car it is charging? And on 2 are there companies out there who do this, ie install EV infrastructure and then charge fees to use it? Any names would be helpful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    EV may not be the best choice .. that's my first thought they can't suit all circumstances.

    Or

    You start numbering spots and get rid of the free4all. That's a poor system.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,191 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You’re assuming people want to out any sort of effort in 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I am often guilty of this, I put it down to hunger ! (Snickers)



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