World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) Files

I think some posters, myself included, just find the number of transgender threads on boards.ie a bit odd, given how few people are actually in that category in Ireland. I mean, they probably just want to own their own identity and deserve a bit of empathy and not being used as the latest anti-woke battering ram without consideration that there are actual people involved.

Given that the HSE says there are less than 10 kids under the age of 16 on puberty blockers, it's an odd concern. Two of your five threads on this account are trans related so I'd suggest it's inaccurate to say you are completely indifferent to transgender people. I'd say you are 60% indifferent.

What’s being claimed in this thread though isn’t based on evidence, it’s just throwing out the usual tropes, and very little evidence of any discussion about evidence based medicine, apart from Hamsterchops nearly losing the run of themselves when they heard on GB News what they thought was the idea that puberty blockers were being banned in the UK.

I’ve no doubt you’re aware of what is meant by evidence based medicine, and the scientific and medical evidence for the use of puberty blockers in the treatment of gender dysphoria or gender incongruence has been available not just in the UK, but globally, for the last 30 years at least.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2008/aug/14/children.youngpeople

The drugs have been verified as safe and effective, and you’re right, the science and medicine has nothing to do with being conservative or anti-woke, but let’s not pretend that the reason they aren’t used in normal practice in the UK has anything to do with science or medicine, it’s entirely motivated by politics. If it weren’t, we’d hear far more about the thousands of children who are blasted with radiation and stuffed to the gills with chemotherapy drugs as part of cancer treatment which in most instances leaves the patient infertile.

Instead what we’ve been hearing about is how people who are transgender if left untreated will grow up to be happy homosexuals who will be told what bathroom to use because people can’t distinguish between a person who is transgender, and an opportunistic pervert. There are far more opportunistic perverts than there are people who are transgender, and they don’t generally wear women’s clothing:

https://www.thejournal.ie/bill-kenneally-6325971-Mar2024/

The reality for people who are transgender however, is far more stark, certainly more so today than it was 30 years ago:

Given these societal changes and progress, we would expect that experiencing transgender identity milestones in adolescence and transitioning into college as a transgender student would be less disruptive to educational attainment today than in the past, with younger cohorts of transgender adolescents better positioned to transform trans identities into resources (Nicolazzo 2016).

However, associations observed in the NTDS sample suggest that this is not the case, as the negative associations between first experiencing transgender identity milestones in adolescence and educational attainment are more pronounced among younger birth cohorts than among older birth cohorts. Transphobia is still highly pervasive in today’s society (Grant et al. 2010; Norton and Herek 2013), and increased attention to transgender rights and issues may increase the visibility and thus stigma faced by transgender students, making it more disruptive to explore and express gender variant identities in adolescence today than in the past.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6234844/

(US-based study from 2019), but the political and social landscape in the UK has been taking a similar trajectory for about the same period of time, not so in Ireland where in spite of healthcare and education being a bit shìte, there hasn’t been the backlash against people who are transgender that has been observed in other countries, which is interesting only for the fact that given the results of the recent referendum, my curiosity was piqued:

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/international-womens-day-survey-2024

At least the most unpopular politician in the UK has found a way back though, off the back of perpetuating fear, division, distrust among the younger generations who aren’t even old enough to vote yet. Best get in early though:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/poll-shows-liz-truss-remains-really-unpopular-ahead-of-popular-conservatism-launch_uk_65c0171ee4b0a3aad5a5aa0a/

Nope, I hadn’t ever heard of the term ‘Popular Conservatism’ as a political philosophy before in my life either, but it seems everyone’s entitled to make it up as they go along… except people who are transgender, of course 😒

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Conservatism

I wonder will the HSE follow suit?

Imagine advocating for kids to be experimented on by never going through puberty and thinking you're on the right side of history. It's sick. Literally no one knows the long term effects of not growing as you're supposed to and replacing the natural process with a cocktail of drugs, not only physically but mentally. The hormones released during puberty are essential for brain development as well as growth. What could possibly go wrong? Better to not hurt any feelings by saying no. Would the same people also advocate for kids to choose to have a vasectomy or tubal litigation if they are "sure" they won't want kids in the future? Doubtful, because we know that kids can't understand or make such decisions

And those same people comparing people that question it to the nazis, a group that committed countless human experiments. Mind boggling lack of awareness.

And people that question men competing against women or the giving of unproven drugs to children weren't sending people to death camps.🤷‍♂️

Insane how not letting children make crazy life altering decisions is now the same as being a Nazi. This is the way the western world has gone unfortunately. Shut up and do what we tell you or you are a fascist.

I love how you, an average jo in the street are such an expert on transgender treatment that you can second guess a qualified physician - because you just know it's wrong.

Oh lord.

There is nothing pathetic about pointing out where the demonizing of the other always inevitably leads us. Human history should provide more than enough examples to show that complacency is ill founded. The sort of hate mongering rhetoric been used across the board by the right wing at the moment is very concerning and transphobic hate speech is the canary in the coalmine.

So forgive me if I don't take you to seriously here on this.