Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Support for the government was always qualified from the start, that is a fact.

The fact also is she identified what was wrong, before it went disastrously wrong for the government.

And @Clo-Clo has the nerve to come on here and call SF incompetent. Hilarious sour grapes and an abject failure to inform himself properly, to be perfectly honest.

She might be confused from all the flights over and back to America she is doing. She was there about a week ago, and I think is going again to States next weekend for St.Patrick's day.

Wonder if she will march behind an "England get out of Ireland" banner over there again?

And seeing as you talk about confusion and Mary-Lou McD., no wonder the Irish-Americans are confused about Ireland when she endorses a banner which cannot even get geography correct?

You were wrong when you said that 'she didn't mention those things' = fact, she did.

Considering she led her party to be the most popular party in Ireland a short time after I doubt if that statement has any data to back it up.

By anti shinners, you mean the folks that want Ireland to still have an economy after the general election?

So just like Lisbon and Nice? A different referendum?

Or are they running it again?

i mean the same usual crowd we find on boards who hate SF so much they ironically give them more airtime and even actual SF supporters. You know, the ones for some reason just couldnt stand the idea of SF in govn and instead resort to gossip and hearsay - plus really bad interpretations of statements - to denigrate the party as much as they can. In the process, as I say, talking about the party they hate moreso than any other party.

SF in government are an unknown - thats the fact. If you even think of the north, then you need to educate yourself on what Stormont is in comparison to the Dail. Becuase they are an unknown, you have nothing to back you cynicism up with.

Maybe you missed when I mentioned it, or when SF said it, but MLMD advised that wording should be sent back to the CA. Her actual words where “We would return to the Citizens’ Assembly wording, that's what should be happening now and if this is not successful, that's where we will bring that,” but I cant find any direct quote from her promising to re-run it. Plenty of papers pushing that idea - but has anyone got the actual quote itself?

Lisbon and Nice were basically the same deal presented twice weren't they. Could you say the immigration problem began then, as we were promising to expand the eu and let loads of people live here? That was one of the issues SF had at the time with Nice

Interesting that you position Sinn Fein as anti-immigration.

well then they are an unknown quality as of yet. Costed proposals? their alternative budget every year is as realistic as they can make it, outside of being in government. Plenty more than any other party comes up with, regardless of how you term 'costed', so yes - Ive a lot more faith in them than the eejits people have been voting in for the past few decades. Look at the state of the place. Anyone who has voted FF or FG over the years should be ashamed

people were voting No because of fears of 'them foreigners' bringing over families - all down to the terrible wording the government wouldnt change. How the hell are you blaming that on SF? In saying that, nearly every shinner I know voted no because the vagueness. I dont think SF should have backed a Yes vote at all, but their hearts were in it. I know people who couldn't inherit anything from their partner as they werent married (the family had first priority) - issues like that would have been fixed with a Yes vote - but the wishy washy wording that was used, how'd anyone expect that to pass? Big failure on the governments part (again).

Pretty desperate though to be thinking its any skin of SF's nose. Have you found me Mary Lou saying the actual words that SF will re-run the referendum again, as is with no changes? Its just gossip in here by the looks of it. I remember the politics forum had a bit of teeth as you used to have to back up you claims. Nowadays a headline off the Indo seems good enough. Very boring.