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Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Maisie, you're a complete ticket but you'll have to stop making things up. Where did I say or insinuate that you are "barking mad"

    I think you need to read the post again, before going off half cocked!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭Sarn


    I’m sorry Maisie, but you are incorrect about the path from the bus stop at Stillorgan village to John of Gods. Speaking as a pedestrian, that is a bicycle path and not a pedestrian footpath, it is not shared with pedestrians until you reach John of Gods. I remember it being installed and this has always been the case.

    Saying that, the alternative route for a pedestrian would be very inconvenient, but I don’t think it was envisaged that someone would get off the bus there and walk to the next stop outside John of Gods.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Lads can we please stop encouraging Maisie/Taxiperson. They are trolling and despite the occasional hilarious comment they are ruining this forum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Best thing I did was mute them, utter waste of time with them spamming this forum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,259 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    IMG_0789.png

    Here the shared path between the village and st.John of Gods with a clear sign shown it’s a shared path



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,259 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    IMG_0789.png

    While he is generally wrong. It is indeed a share path as indicated by the sign



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Fair point. However, it is a very poor design with the signage on the path itself being for cyclists only. If you look at the design of the path at the start, it is a continuation of the cycle path while the pedestrian part is blocked by a barrier. Similarly, at the end it merges with part of the road for a stretch before meeting up with John of Gods.

    In the case of the previous stretch of path from Oatlands it is for cyclists only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    Yes, I complained about that stretch being for cylists only, got fedup with men flying into me, theywouldnt even ring a friggin bell.

    I rang the council and an official told me to cross the road and cross back again.

    I didnt, I continued to walk and just ignored the abuse from those men, pity about them flying through, Im a local, my wish to walk where there is traffic is my priority.I like the feeling of safety when others are around, not the speeding cycling ones, they stressed me.

    Another place where those bicycle signs on the road is inappropriate is at the left turn off newtownpark onto the N11, so confusing now to know where the turn is with that big bike sign on the road making it look as if that road space is for cyclists only, this means people are hesitating to go left and then pulling across quickly without checking for cyclists, again back to the point of making driving very difficult for older locals and learner drivers.

    The RSA needs to mount a campaign now to address cyclist behaviour, its appalling, going too fast, not wearing reflective clothing, no lights, no helmets, breaking red lights, all so entitled snd you can see even here, no criticism is allowed, put posters on ignore and call their mental health into question.

    Its shocking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    Its not just at that point, its everywhere from that point of the N11, anywhere the space is shared the bike sign is painted indicating to cyclists this space is reserved for them. Its on the other side of the N11 too.

    I saw a woman getting off a bus one day in the rain, herself and her three children had to stand to one side to make way for a cyclist, he barrelled through.

    She had to make her way along that path dodging cyclists and then Eamon Ryan thinks we are going to put the family on buses to bring them to school.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    They also need to do something about cars constantly breaking red lights. I find that much more of a risk as a pedestrian.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    So what do you propose, close the cycle lanes to cyclists after 10.00am and open them to cars and then reverse the process in the evening ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    35 people have been killed by drivers already this year Maisie, just one of them is a cyclist.

    Explain to me again why you this RSA should be targeting cyclists?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,932 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Why would anybody getting off a bus in Stillorgan village walk back down to the N11 to get to John of Gods? Madness. There are seldom or never pedestrians walking along that stretch of the N11. Most will walk down the Hill and along Church Rd. to get to John of Gods. A much more pleasant walk also, away from all the traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    The point is not what pedestrians like to do, its the issue of painting bike signs on shared paths.

    Its the same on the other side of the road, get off a bus near Cabinteely village or Cornelscourt and bike signs ate painted on the shared path there too. Hence bus passengers jumping out of cyclists way. You could live along there too and fancy a walk, why should cyclists speeding into the city take precedence over you.

    Its not an issue most of the day as cyclists are a rarity, it has to be an issue at commuter time and it isnt fair, far more pedestrians than cyclists and overall they are more vulnerable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    Everyone using the foad needs to obey the law, cyclists are never done moaning about motorists but then cycle round without lights or bells and run red lights.

    Now that roafs and junctions have been tightened and pladtic wands placed everywhere its imprrative that cyclists exercise caution and make themselves visible, hence role for RSA here.

    Daughter came home complaining that a driver rolled down the window shouting that she couldnt see her, daughter has light but no reflective jacket and its dark, she left the jacket in college.

    I said you deserved to be shouted at and you were probably lucky not to be hit.

    Belgian cyclists wear reflective jackets with lights (battery operated). I got one for daughter and she said it made her look like a christmas, better that than being under the wheels of a car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I must say that I do agree with you in this respect. Shared paths are not ideal and can be dangerous.

    I know myself from cycling into town on the N11, that you have to be ultra careful for example, at the top of Mount Merrion ave where pedestrians can run out from the walkway to Sycamore Crescent and on to the bike path.

    This is why I'm in favour of reducing the space available to road traffic to allow for dedicated cycle ways, such as they are doing along Stillorgan Pk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tarabuses


    There is no cycle path where the walkway from Sycamore Crescent exits to the footpath beside the N11. However, I don't think cyclists realise this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,259 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    In fairness how are cyclists meant to get passed there. The cycle path doesn’t have a Slip onto the road. And it picks up again after the entrance. It’s a disaster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I didn't realise that. If you look just back from it (Google) there is a yield sign for cyclists. I always assumed that as a cyclist you proceeded with caution and yielded to pedestrian traffic.

    I think it proves the point that mixed foot and cycle paths are a bit of a disaster.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Looking back through Google street view it appears that the cycle path was removed when they installed the pedestrian crossing over to Mount Merrion avenue, cutting off the original cycle path.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭markpb


    Let me paraphrase your second paragraph for you:

    “Now that roads and cycle lanes have been made safer for cyclists, it’s imperative that cyclists cycle more carefully than ever.”

    Maybe it’s late at night and I’m a little sleepy but that sounds completely backwards to me.

    The you admit that your own daughter fulfilled all the legal requirements for cycling in a city and was verbally abused by a driver but you sided with the driver who, by his own words, demonstrated that he was not driving safely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Worth a look for all the zealots in this space.

    How much better off would we have been, if we had kept the footpaths for pedestrians and small wheel users, the Bus Stops for folk waiting for a bus, and nice wide all-purpose traffic lanes, so the bikes could have room and the cars would have space to pass them out safely and the buses would be able to take a bend without going up on a mini-roundabout or demolishing a build-out.

    Most of you are right. We DO have our priorities all wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    On that slight down-hill section where I'm normally hitting 35km/s - good luck with that right of way, Mr Pedestrian. And as for that chicane/Senna-S just beyond it at Greenfield Rd... yeah, 45km/s... you don't want to be meeting my handle-bars there either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,273 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    i mean motorists are never done with moaning about cyclists and then drive around drunk, on drugs, uninsured, without licenses, mowing down pedestrians on roads and footpaths, etc. etc.

    you'd swear cyclists were the only road users breaking rules.

    10/10 for entertainment though maisie your rants are hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    The driver was a woman and if i had her phone number i would ring and thank her, daughter never cycles in the dark now without high vis jacket, its called commonsense.

    A friend got a fright too with a cyclist in dark clothing at night, she wound down the window and said if you want to commit suiciide be my guest but dont involve me in your suicide pact.😀😀😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭maisie45


    There is already a pedestrian path and cycle path on the stillorgan park, its not a shared space for most of the route both ways.

    I dont use it anyway,I walk, cycle jog through the park. Its a horrible cycle uphill all the way, prefer walking as do most locals.

    Those changes on Stillorgan Park will cause chaos, most of the right turns into large housing estates are going, this will result in long tailbacks to Dundrum with the buses caught up in it too.

    As far as i csn tell the left turn onto the N11 is going too so all traffic going straight and turning logjammed, this will result in traffic light breaking as everyone will be delayed.

    The right turn into Augustine Park is definitely going, there is a school in that housing estate and a swimming pool, three hundred or more houses, many rented so could be four cars per house.

    Most of the residents have no idea whats planned, there is no info on the councils website re start date, end date, how traffic congestion is to be managed.

    Im actually embarrassed cycling now, so many people so angry and they have seen nothing yet, I listen to the anger and I say as a cyclist I do not support interventions that make peoples lives a misery, i hate to think that friends and neighbours think i lent any support to this madness.

    Its not as if that new cycleway will even be used, the worst part is the effect on the new bus connects service, just desperate carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tarabuses


    Are you for real? I walk along there regularly and if you come along at 35km/s and hit me or my wife it will not be good luck for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I'm perfectly entitled to do any of those speeds. The posted vehicular speed limit is 60kmph.



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