Russia - threadbanned users in OP

you guys arguing with a bot. bot farms are the only weapon ruSSians have left as they might have shortages of tanks, planes, ammunition but ruSSia for sure have no shortage of idiots.

it's a plausible solution, and used in many places round the world. Expensive though.

And its still not allowed, especially now, because Putin is increasingly coming under internal pressure, so he will crack down hard on everyone perceived as being less than 100% supportive. I'd say that he will soon be seeing the meatgrinder himself firsthand, once that video starts circulating..

Hard to imagine Russia accepting defeat.

Ukraine still hold Kyiv, Russia still hasn't taken it in their 3 day war. In your eyes that's a Russian victory? You mentioned defeat, it means one needs to be victorious. Very hard to see Russia victorious when in about 16 months they have gained little if any gains.

Unless you count little towns and settlements and not cities.

Nope. It went something like this:

On another note, Zaluzhniy seems absolutely delighted with being relieved of his role; earlier in the day he had, not one, but two hugs for Zelensky on being awarded the Hero of Ukraine. Budanov in comparison seemed positively glum.

And in case you need a link about just one lie Putin said

Twitter is utterly awful, my feed is full of people praising Putin for telling the "truth " while everyone should have spotted the Hitler praise and reflected.

"The farce of this scenario is that these people nodding agreement with Putin would probably laugh and be appalled if Richi Sunak started agitating to retake the parts of France once controlled by England back in the days of Jean D'Arc - yet Putin's grasping justification that Ukraine was always Russian, going back to the same approximate period, is somehow okay and passes the smell test?"

Along the same lines as this I've had several conversations with Americans who were praising Putin, when I asked them what their response would be if Putin decided he wanted Alaska back they never seem to be able to formulate a reply other than "Alaska is part of America"

I (well...half!) listened to the historical lecture (30 min or so), folllowed by old complaints about the USA and NATO slighting Russia post Cold War that came after that for about 10 min. That was enough for me. Maybe when I have time I will listen to more. Probably not though.

I did notice he said a lot of stuff about Poland in the warped history lecture, almost more than about Ukraine itself. That was only thing that surprised me a bit.

He was really (IMO) painting it as this malign influence meddling away at Russia's borders, and somehow partly responsible for the war in Ukraine. A ragbag of made up or possibly cherrypicked (I don't know all of the history he was talking about enough) grievances with Poland he's perhaps been pondering and stewing in his own juices about. 

I found that part quite chilling in context of what the man has done over the last 2 years anyway.

You mean more Bouchas? Rapes, torture, etc? And giving Putin the incentive to invade even more countries? Putin has to be stopped dead in his tracks, and if not in Ukraine, then somewhere else down the line. But he must be stopped, thats the bottom line.

I wonder what kind of an assessment a psychiatrist would make on Putin after listening to that interview. The full 2 hrs? I could only stick it for about 30 mins, so I'll be doing it on the instalment plan.

There is no where to go after Ukraine, except Moldova and Georgia, and they should join Nato asap, then Russia is surrounded, and no way would he attack a Nato country. Putin may go the opposite direction and attack border countries like North Korea and China, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan.

A stablemate……?

Ah you mean for this guy!

Those with zero thoughts of their own quote.