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Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,474 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    give me strength, this f**king fool thinks he's a politician



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    That traffic looks to be the same as it always was to be honest. It was always backed up on that stretch.

    I saw some guy on a facebook group claiming they aren't going to have an inbound traffic lane when it's finished. Some guy rebutted what he was saying, and even took aerial photos, which he overlaid with the plans showing the inbound lane. The guy claimed the photos were out of date google photos, and the locals knew the truth. Claimed there isn't space for another lane, ignoring the space that the worksite is taking up. There's just no getting through to most of these people.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Yes, it's quite common to hear that actually. I've told several people, several times, that there'd be an inbound lane, but no, they still say it when they complain about it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,384 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There's plenty room for an inbound lane.

    Further towards town, once it's finished, they have to put back the North Strand bus stops they never should have removed. I hope the entrances to the side streets are not in their final state, it's like going up and down a little staircase everytime in the car.

    It will be fun when the LIDL Ballybough works start (next week supposedly).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,384 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Where the old Annesley motors used to be. There has been a Mud Island mural along the front of the site for a long time. Between O'Sullivan Avenue and Clonliffe Avenue.

    Was supposed to have started ages ago, but apparently site clearing starting next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Ah yeah, I know the spot well. I just assumed it was going to become apartments. Good catchment area there.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    It is a little bit weird as their is another Lidl (and Aldi) just ten minutes walk away at East Wall.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    The East Wall shops aren't 10 minutes walk away though if you live West of the new Ballybough Lidl. When this opens it will become the closest full service supermarket to Ballybough, Clonliffe, Lower Drumcondra and North Circular Road etc., who have amongst the lowest levels of car ownership in the city, so distance is an important factor.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    lol I often walk to Aldi in East wall from far North of their!

    Dont get me wrong, I get what you are saying, it is just surprising how dominant Lidl in particular has become in the area, with shops here, East Wall, Upper Drumcondra Road, Artane and Santry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,474 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    The raised footpaths are permanent yes, it gives priority to pedestrians and slows cars down. I like them, it looks good, my road is one of the ones with this going on.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,384 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    As long as the speedy types on bicycles will have a bit of courtesy allowing cars take it slowly all will be good.

    Most cyclists are great but of course you get the odd red light runner who thinks it is my fault he broke the lights and found me in his way.

    Saw a couple of near misses at the Ossory Road junction over the last week. The yields and red lights really need to be observed there or someone will be badly hurt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,474 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    well the bikes would have right of way i think so cars should be waiting for a break in bike traffic to turn. stand at ossary road for a bit and the amount of motorists that go through after the light goes red is shocking



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    You mean like pretty much any signal controlled junction around the country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,474 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Yeah, Ossory road is bad. A lot of drivers coming onto North Strand just keep coming well after the light has changed to red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    While the footpaths are raised for pedestrians, I think the road surface either side is yet to be finished, so it will be a smoother transition when it's done.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Yes, I believe that the entire road surface, from clontarf to city centre, is still unfinished. It'll need to be raised about two inches once all the work is finished.

    You can see it clearly at the new drains along the route, the drains have vertical bars to stop debris from entering the drain, but there's a huge gap between the end of the bar and the road surface, making them totally useless for now.

    That work should bring the road level with the cycle path, which will reduce the rollercoaster feeling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    So I had a head on collision in Fairview, with an electric scooter. At the dangerous bend by the foot bridge. I spotted him, and braked, but he was travelling outbound, on the right hand side, so no way to avoid someone that was travelling inbound on the left of the path. Injured my arm, but both lucky that it wasn't worse. I spotted him as he came into view where the yellow X is, and collision happened when the blue X is.

    Further along in North Strand, usual van blocking the footpath by the shop/post office/pharmacy. Woman stepped into the cycle lane to get past, without looking, and almost got taken out by two bikes. Unusually, the loading bay on Bessborough Avenue was free, so that could have been used by the van.

    And who thought the best place for a electrical junction box was on a dangerous bend?

    In other news, I spoke with engineers from Clonmel Enterprises and DCC today. From March, they are trialing some methods to protect the lane at Westwood, restricting outbound traffic turning right into Westwood. They also said the contractor would be making the temporary surface better. But I'll believe that when I see it. It really is in a bad state outbound for cyclists.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    sorry to hear about your accident - people "salmoning" in the wrong direction is one of the reasons i prefer 2-way paths. It's somewhat inevitable on a road like Fairview where it's difficult to cross to the other side to use the correct direction (particularly if your only going a short distance up the road).



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  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    5 cyclists just need to surround that car for a good half an hour and disrupt them to send a message



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,484 ✭✭✭MarkN


    If that forces motorists to jam up the right turn after the arches, that will be an even bigger mess. Westwood should’ve been made sort a bigger car park with better access as part of their business going forward to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Yeah, it's common at the moment, due to the state of the outbound road. But if you are travelling in the wrong direction, at least be on the left hand side to avoid possible collisions! I'm with you on the 2 way paths. Easier to overtake as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    yeah, stay left seems obvious, but then you have the council putting in sections of 2-way path where you're supposed to keep right just to confuse people. Also scooterists, in my experience, haven't a clue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,202 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Just so people are aware, this bloke is a total plonker. Ignore him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,474 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    funny that, cycling back from gym at lunchtime, just before your spot there a really fast e-scooter brushed past me by about 6 inches, not good.

    westwood is a constant mess and holds up buses. it's really unfair on those travelling by bus to have to put up with this because of people wanting to use a bloody gym. i hope they sort it out sooner or later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,484 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Kids also learn to swim there from all over north Dublin and driving is one of the only options. It also hosts parties for kids. And well, being in the gym helps keep people out of hospital. There should be another entrance however.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Kids also learn to swim there from all over north Dublin and driving is one of the only options. It also hosts parties for kids.

    and what???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Consonata


    Cycling and getting PT to the gym also keeps folk out of hospital.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,394 ✭✭✭markpb


    Perhaps Westwood could sort out driving lessons for the parents while their kids are learning to swim. People think that it’s okay to queue in a bus lane to turn left. If we had a proper police force, they could reeducate them.

    There are also plenty of nearby housing estates that they could park and have a short walk. And yes, I know walking and crossing roads with little people is a pain but that doesn’t give anyone the right to block a bus lane, cycle path or footpath.



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