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The Traitors: Game Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm just wondering if Vespy and CJ Maxx were informed of the saves, as only one thread announcement

    I'm inclined to believe you as why say it

    I'm still suss on who saved CJ, even though Neowise said it could be Shane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yes I was one of the first voters on Shane so I am under the spotlight tonight as he was a banished Faithful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    JP Liz did not move votes onto ShaneU. They voted originally and revoted for ShaneU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Vestiapx




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    First off today it's clear that I need to be flipped. The whole vote yesterday has a spotlight on me and the traitors aren't going to kill me as it provides a perfect smokescreen for them to hide behind. If this drags on for days we're likely to just keep killing faithfuls.

    So I propose I'm banished and when I flip the votes can be analysed.

    My hunch is that there's currently at least 3 traitors, one voted on me, one on ShaneU and one on someone else.

    2 posters are standing out:

    Jp Liz - Neo pointed out that you are playing this game completely differently, you are , but you haven't played differently when you were a wolf before so I'm not sure if your reason for this is genuine - you enjoyed the show and want to stay in this game. Your usual play is ask everyone if they're a traitor and random posts like asking the traitors/wolves to surrender.

    Neo - I feel like I'm playing more like Neo than Neo is. Once Shane flipped I went back and can see why he think Neo pocketed me. Now, Neo can read a game better than many so he might just know I'm a faithful.

    This will mean nothing until I flip but I believe Green&Red, Strawbs, Clarabel, Molly and Vesty are faithful. I've changed my mind on Vesty because it seems he/she is having great craic in their first game and their first post saying they would have liked to be a traitor is genuine.

    Kingtut is harder to get a lean on as they haven't posted but I take their post about being on holidays at face value.

    Cj maxx, hynesie, this is it need to post and get involved. If they're faithful they're of no use if they don't contribute.

    Rikand could be either.

    I'm going back to look at the vote and will add more to this.

    If a faithful won a prize we need to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    There was a mistake were multiple mistakes in this the first time, corrected now!

     

     

    Look at the voting timeline we have

     

    9.00      Nothing – Proxy vote for Leg End

    9.01     Vesty – McDanger

    9.07     Fritzvelly – Vesty

    9.11      JP Liz – Shane

    9.27      Shane – Neo

    9.30     Hynesie – Leg End (2)

    9.31     This is it – Shane (2)

    9.37     CJ Maxx – Vesty (2)

    9.38     Jluv – JP Liz

    9.39      Leg End – Shane (3)

    9.45      King Tut - McDanger (2)

    9.47      Neo – JP Liz (2)

    9.52      Strawbs – This is it

    9.53     Rikand – McDanger (3)

    9.53      Duffman – Leg end (3)

    9.53      Clarabel – Shane (4)

    9.53     G&R – Leg End (4)

    9.54     McDanger – CJ Maxx

     

    While I still think that Leg End is a traitor I don’t think Clarabel could have known that Leg end would jump from 2 -> 4. All three votes at 9.53 came in roughly together but I had flagged from way out that I was voting Leg End. The possibility is that she could have been protecting Vesty as well. If Leg end is to flip faithful it would look like Duffman and myself were protecting Vesty.

    Other interesting things are that McDanger didn’t self-pres, the votes never lie I guess.

    Strawbs throwaway vote at 9.52 will have to be looked at if Leg End and Vesty flip faithful

     

     

     

    Forgot the second half of this, the revote

     

    10.04   G&R – Leg End

    10.05    Neo – Shane

    10.05    Vesty – Shane

    10.08    JP Liz – Shane

    10.09    Fritzelly - Shane

    10.10    This is it – Shane

    10.10    Hynesie – Leg Eng

    10.11    Clarabel – Shane

    10.16    Duffman – Leg End

    10.17    Mollyb – Shane

    10.18    Nothing – Leg End (Proxy)

    10.23   Jluv – Leg End

    10.25   Strawbs – Shane

    10.39    McDanger – Shane

     

    So Strawbs, Fritzelly, Vesty and Neo all moved onto Shane. If Leg end is being protected then theres definitely at least one traitor in that group



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    That’s the 3rd time you’ve posted that. If Leggy wasn’t being protected what does it tell you?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    On this, if others agree once I'm flipped you're left with Vesty and Neo.

    I'd look at Neo first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This is off, as it all the questions about prizes today.

    We had discussed that it was best not to disclose winning yet liz is straight in to distance herself from a prize and then asked Necro for details when it was clear he wouldn't give details.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    I'm happy to be looked at if Leggy is a traitor, I don't think they are, so put this on the back burner until leggy flips, which I don't propose we do anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,825 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So, yesterday I said I thought you were a traitor, then posted this morning that I could only participate on my breaks today and suddenly I'm no use...... Deflection much.

    Liz is still too hung up on yesterday's prizes for there not to be something there, either she saved cj or she knows who did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Of course I’ll agree with you being banished but I have to wonder what your game is here, traitor that sees the writing is on the wall and decides to go an unorthodox route is my guess.


    FWIW when I looked at the voting pattern it isn’t the 100% slam dunk I remembered it being. Duffman and I both voted at the same time as Clarabel. It looks like she was saving someone but it could just as easily have been Vesty.


    On Vesty I think you’re not giving them near enough credit, they may not have played here before but they’ve played somewhere and are very clever at it, a good player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Reposted due to errors!


    If Leggys isn’t being protected then either Vespy was being protected or no traitor was anywhere close and it was all just a coincidence



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I have to be flipped or this will drag on for days. At least the votes can be analysed with more data.

    Are you reluctant to have me banished so keep the spotlight off yourself?

    Surely everyone can see that the traitors won't kill me and the whole am I a traitor or faithful will just drag on? That doesn't help the faithful, but it sure gives the traitors the opportunity to hide in the back and forth or jump on a wagon.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Why do you think I'm a traitor? Do you think anyone else is?

    Getting this information is valuable if someone flips traitor, it's much harder too for a traitor to justify their reasoning especially as numbers dwindle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,941 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    What would you propose we do instead? I see the appeal of banishing LER to give us more information but I think the same could be said of anyone. With 2 days worth of voting on thread after tonight's banishment there's more for us to pick over and analyse. Looking at the votes from last night doesn't give us a huge amount to go one. They were well spread out as you'd expect. For me it's probably more likely that LER is a faithful also so banishing them would harm the village.

    FWIW I would've been voting for CJ Maxx last night had I been here. Low participation and the only thing to stick out in my head is that he asked where the backrooms were. It could've been a noobie slip up. For the moment that's where my vote will stay tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Apologies if this has been answered already - is there another vote tonight between 9 and 10? If so I'll need to submit mine early to the host (if that's allowed) as I'll be flying home at that time.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    @nothing, what about me suggested I'm a traitor? Anyone else catch your eye?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    Why do you want to fall on your sword? Why don't you act like a faithful and try to find traitors instead of trying to get a faithful banished?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    Instead I propose we look at someone who we think is a traitor. (You yourself say you think leggy is faithful, and if thats the case there will be no information to be gleamed from a faithful v faithful banishment and a follow up steam roll of the other faithful

    Was liz for me on yesterdays vote, and they haven't done anything that would change my opinion there.

    There are many players doing sfa that could be participating, voting out the post leader because they have been vocal is exactly what the traitor would like to happen to leggy, why else was she to killed?


    Let's use are banishment wisely, and not do what the traitors want us to do.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I've explained why, twice.

    1. There is a lot of suspicion on me, the traitors won't kill me when they could pile on me later.

    2. The to and fro about me lets the traitors hide.

    3. Another faithful is likely to be killed if up against me. Then the posters who voted for me will be under suspicion and I will still be a possible traitor.

    Banish me, use the info when I flip to look at the votes, and then I suggest the faithful look at you. You're happy to be looked at after I'm banished but you don't think we should rush into it. Is now not the best time to clear up the confusion and let the village get on the game without all the confusion?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    voting out the post leader because they have been vocal is exactly what the traitor would like to happen to leggy, why else was she to killed?

    If the traitors want me killed why didn't they do it last night when I was very conveniently on death row?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Neowise


    Because they want us to waste a banishment on you, therefore saving there murder for someone they deem less easy to banish.

    You are being a proxy traitor by wishing yoiur own death, it's anti-faithful, and i still think you are faithful, which is why i'd like you to stop doing it and be more faithful and hunt traitors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,941 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    Leggy I don't understand how a pile on for you tonight would give us any real useful info tbh. If everyone votes for you, even if you do turn Traitor, it solves nothing. Any other traitors would be mental not to vote for you if everyone else was doing it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Let’s pretend that you’ve just been banished 5 minutes ago, everyone voted for you because you asked them too and you’ve stood up and declared you’re faithful.

    What are the votes telling us?



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