The Traitors: Game Thread

When do we know if someone has been murdered.

I won a shield from murder in the game yesterday, so I had a choice between the four on DR. Putting myself in the traitors shoes I think they would think Rikand, leg end and Macdanger could all be banished. So I've saved vesty. 

I'm convinced leg end is a traitor. Last minute votes to bring it to a tie last night, then wins the revote by a landslide. That says to me that his traitor buddies were told to tow the line. 

That's where my vote will be going tonite bar something significant happening. 

Well you're dead but I don't know what happened with CJ but I put a shield on Vesty thinking he was most likely to be murdered

Awww I can’t play the anagram game. I like anagrams

For what it’s worth, I don’t think a traitor @Mollyb60 would miss a vote. You’re gonna remember you’ve been randed a baddie role and when chatting in their backroom would have mentioned they were snowed under at work and necro would have reminded them that they could vote by proxy

I’m always preoccupied at this time in the morning. Point still stands, I don’t think she would have forgot if she was a traitor

Popping in just between meetings to address this. I personally (obviously) don't think not voting is a traitor's trait. It's not in my interests if I'm a Traitor to draw any attention to myself like that. I'm not disinterested either, I was engaging on thread yesterday so that's not fair. I genuinely forgot about it and when I got back on thread I had a choice between LER and Shane. I picked Shane. As did many others so you can't pin that banishment on me solely.

"Didn't want to be seen to be saving from the draw. Not enough risk / reward." I don't understand this point. Can you explain it a bit more please?

In any case, if I were a Traitor I'd want to have won a prize yesterday to help my teammates so the very fact that I wasn't around to actively choose a number should push me more towards villager. (apologies again @Necro for messing up your game!)

Any comment?

I am happy to be protected and also happy that I'm Faithfull looking enough to be murdered.

I believe it would help if we were to Banish LER in order to answer questions from the voting patterns but would be much much happier if I won a peak. As while LER'S alliance is important to know I feel its likely to be Faithful.

I made it very very clear I believe in LER and I'm wondering now if they believed me pocketed and that's why I wasn't murdered.

I'd say the reason Rikland wasn't murdered was he was an obvious save or he's a Traitor but not giving Traitor vibes .

So basically what I'm saying is the wine is everywhere and I'm at a loss to k ow what to do.

The people who originally vote for shaneu are the ones responsible for his banishment. Clarabel, JP Liz V1, Leg End Reject, This is it

I don't see how anybody could pin Shaneu's banishment solely on you, that is madness.

If I were waiting to vote to save LER I'd be on the thread right after 10 saying oh no lads, my bad, oopsie. I think it was 20 past or so when I realised I'd missed it. Do you mean the correct move if I were a Traitor was to vote for McDanger? Does that mean you don't suspect me now?

There was a mistake in this the first time, no Neo, plus I had missed the whole second voting, I’m half asleep today

Look at the voting timeline we have

9.00      Nothing – Proxy vote for Leg End

9.01      Vesty – McDanger

9.07     Fritzvelly – Vesty

9.11      JP Liz – Shane

9.27      Shane – Neo

9.30      Hynesie – Leg End (2)

9.31      This is it – Shane (2)

9.37      CJ Maxx – Vesty (2)

9.38      Jluv – JP Liz

9.39      Leg End – Shane (3)

9.45      King Tut - McDanger (2)

9.47      Neo – JP Liz (2)

9.52      Strawbs – This is it

9.53      Rikand – McDanger (3)

9.53      Duffman – Leg end (3)

9.53      Clarabel – Shane (4)

9.53      G&R – Leg End (4)

9.54      McDanger – CJ Maxx

While I still think that Leg End is a traitor I don’t think Clarabel could have known that Leg end would jump from 2 -> 4. All three votes at 9.53 came in roughly together but I had flagged from way out that I was voting Leg End. The possibility is that she could have been protecting Vesty as well. If Leg end is to flip faithful it would look like Duffman and myself were protecting Vesty.

Other interesting things are that McDanger didn’t self-pres, the votes never lie I guess.

Strawbs throwaway vote at 9.52 will have to be looked at if Leg End and Vesty flip faithful

Forgot the second half of this, the revote

10.04    G&R – Leg End

10.05    Neo – Shane

10.05    Vesty – Shane

10.08    JP Liz – Shane

10.09    Fritzelly - Shane

10.10    This is it – Shane

10.10    Hynesie – Leg Eng

10.11    Clarabel – Shane

10.16    Duffman – Leg End

10.17    Mollyb – Shane

10.18    Nothing – Leg End (Proxy)

10.23    Jluv – Leg End

10.25    Strawbs – Shane

10.39    McDanger – Shane

So Strawbs, Fritzelly, JP Liz, Vesty and Neo all moved onto Shane. If Leg end is being protected then theres definitely at least one traitor in that group