Deposit return scheme (recycling)

yes that is more reasonably true than what i was guessing at. Alot of people did that with 24 pack slabs of cans too.

it goes straight into Re-Turn's pocket, they consider it as another source of revenue.

i think their CEO said something about using the money to buy/build a recycling plant, but i imagine atleast some portion of the money also goes towards the operations of the scheme and costs occurred. They say that the scheme is self-funding and a convenience to everyone. They are a Not-For-Profit company by the way

Just curious what in your opinion is the list of things they got so badly wrong? Note you have made up this statement about RVMs

The main issues, for me, is communication and getting the simple things wrong. We were told in the weeks and months leading up that during the transition period there would be some in scope products with the re-turn logo and some non-scope products without the logo.

What they didn't mention until after the scheme started is that there would be some in-scope without re-turn logos and what I found out yesterday is some products will have the re-turn logo, be liable for a deposit and not be accepted at RVMs.

See the image below, a deposit was paid and it clearly displays the re-turn logo but the RVM spits it back out. Interestingly searching the barcode on the checker 5060435603608 also shows it as not in-scope

Vocation? Barcode looks similar to theirs

Have had that issue myself, logo on can, not on barcode checker. They jumped the gun on putting logo stock to market too so this is probably a Vocation caused issue.

Other Vocation cans, different beer, also bought over the weekend are fine so they may have not given all barcodes to re-turn.

There are some cafes that use cans of soft drinks. They are few and far between though I was in one in the last 12 months but can't remember where it was, most, as you correctly say are glass bottles

I would be surprised if there were many left doing cans or pet bottles due to the extra hassle

Yes, vocation, that makes sense in fairness

Did they show a deposit on the receipt ?

If they did take it back they owe you 15c.

Ok, you didn't say it was the only thing you bought.

Still worth your while trying it in an RVM.

If that doesn't work take it back anyway they still owe you 15c.

Tesco selling off their cans and bottles from old stock. 24 cans Pepsi etc for €8. Big bottles €1. Long best before date. No deposit charge obviously. Very handy for impending teen parties here in this house, don't have to be minding empties to keep in prestine condition.

i had posted that idea about a week ago but then got flamed hard for it and called a conman and was told i would need a waste collection permit for commercial waste and would need to register my vehicles or something lol. it's an idea i'm still looking into, been talking to some cafe's and small family ran restaurants, have'nt tried any major franchise chains yet asides from a costa.

But yes if any of these dine-in places are willing to not charge customers a deposit and recycling the cans themself instead after pouring the contents, that may be quite handy and convenient as well as guarentee-ing that the cans are recycled without being damaged or risking having to bring them to an rvm where they can get accidentally damaged along the way. makes it more appealing and less of a hassle. no one wants to be lugging around cans after eating a meal i'd imagine.