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The new recycling system

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    So what's the story now with bottles that have the tax charged but no Return logo. Can we just stick them in the machine? If so, might we go through our recycle bin and picks others out and put them through as well? I suppose worst comes to worst and they won't take them, we can leave them there for the store to sort out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭bog master


    Good few post on here denying that waste providers would not increase charges without raising a fuss in the media when a child in primary could work out an income decrease equals a price rise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    New barcode on bottles and cans can get authorization in machine only if no logo ,

    Manual return needs a logo.

    I doubt any of us yet have new stock as stores need to get rid of all stock first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    So I had a strange experience at the self return machine

    3 cans inserted

    First one taken 15c added to the receipt. Second can was then not accepted so I took it back. Third can was accepted but the 15c was not added to the receipt!

    When I printed the receipt there was only 15c on it, yet two cans were taken by the machine.

    Didn't reallty care as it was just 15c......but on the other hand it shouldn't happen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭SteM


    But these are machines that have been working in other countries for years without issues. What could go wrong here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,525 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Went to Tesco today, two machines one out of action.

    Selling off 24 trays of 7up free, pepsi max etc for 10 euros - clearly marked as not having the recycling deposit - so stocked up, still plenty left. By the time I am buying more at least I will know they can be returned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭SteM


    At what part of the return process do you need supply your club card?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭gipi


    I am on a pay as you use system with my waste company. I don't put the green (recycling) bin out at all. It's cheaper for me to bring my recycling (including stuff the bin wouldn't take - glass, aluminium foil, metal) to the local recycling centre - I can get rid of a lot more there and the entry fee (4 euro )is less than one green bin collection charge (about 7.50 euro at the mo).

    I have no doubt the recycling centre entry fee will go up as the throughput of aluminium cans and plastic bottles goes down.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭bog master


    But we are being told this new system will be provided at no extra cost!!! me arse



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Someone using an automatic checkout in Tesco was asked to scan a Clubcard first before using an RVM voucher.

    Another poster did not have that problem.

    It's probably an incorrectly programmed machine.

    In any event it's in breach of the Return rules so shouldn't be happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    With the current confusion stocking up seems like a good idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Why didn't someone invent a machine that would take any of these vans in any condition and have the intelligence to put the barcode in such a way that it would be read by the machine?

    Accepting only intact cans is surely cutting out a whole lot of cana that are recyclable also.

    They are surely crushed at some.point after they enter the machine.

    There are simple solutions.to.moat things but obviously an agenda or lak of foresight restricts tackling these issues in a more straightforward way.

    Anyhoo no concern of me.. I don't purchase cans in any form or minerals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭bog master


    You are dealing with a quango that backtracks within 24 hours on it press releases about conditions, and you expect "have the intelligence"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Was in Lidl this afternoon, while my wife was shopping, out of pure curiosity I took a few mins to see what's on the shelves.

    Somewhat to not be able to find any "new stock", i.e items with deposit or logo. Single exception was the Kinnegar beers.

    When do we think the tipping point will be, i.e when will most items have the logo?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I did my main shop in Aldi yesterday. Pretty much all the beers had a sign saying there’s 15c deposit but zero had a SEL with the +15c. None of the soft drinks had it and I bought some ZX cola, no deposit charged.

    Tesco had labels on everything. Machine worked fine when I dropped in my juice and label scanned fine at self service.

    Random guess? After Paddy’s day is the tipping point for my Aldi. No logic to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭bog master


    Did my shopping yesterday and looking closely for deposit notifications. SValu no notices, one large mineral bought-no deposit.

    Aldi, beer bought amongst regular groceries, no notices-labels, no deposit charged. Machine sitting there very lonely and looked to be twice the size of the one in SValu.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i scanned the deposit receipt after the stuff i was buying. scanned the barcode like i would milk. an error message popped up.

    yer man came over asked me to scan clubcard and then deposit receipt, it was then credited off the bill.

    it seems this was prob an error as you dont need to be clubcard member to use the deposit receipt per posts above



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I seem to be the exception where it did work. Nobody else has said it works in Tesco without a clubcard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I could be wrong but I think only the two of you reported on how you fared with redeeming an RVM voucher at a Tesco automatic checkout.

    That's one that required clubcard and one that didn't.

    Obviously it shouldn't happen and needs to be sorted but it may not be widespread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Didn’t cop it was the same person. Apologies 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    No need to apologise it's a busy thread and I miss bits as well.

    I don't think Tesco would purposely make Clubcards mandatory to get a refund credited at automatic checkouts.

    Firstly because it's not allowed under the terms of the Return scheme and secondly because they want customers to use the automatic checkouts smoothly. Not out of any concern for the customer but just to get them out of the way to make room for the next one.

    They don't want delays at the manual checkouts or customer service desk either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Went to my local Tesco to give it a try, had a bag of random cans and bottles, all rejected. 3 of the 4 machines out of service also, wether they were broke or needed emptying I don’t know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Bought my first plastic bottle since this kicked off today, standard bottle of Lucozade orange, was charged the deposit. Got home and out of curiosity checked the barcode on the re-rurn site but it wasn't recognised. Not too hopeful of getting my money back. Not a great first impression.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hang onto it and the receipt.

    Try it in an RVM and if it doesn't refund go back to where you bought it, they owe you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    We're in an awkward phase where the system has begun but most shops are still full of stock that predates the system. In a few weeks it will have sorted itself out. I'd imagine it was the same initially in other countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    A Couple of McDonalds have new stock, i tried a switcheroo with their bottled water. But sadly they have a batch number and different barcodes on the new bottles so they can tell the difference lmao. Old barcode stock is entirely removed from some of their systems, the old barcodes don't even ring up when scanned.

    i been in a few aldi's and tesco's so far, have yet to find any new stock. Have'nt tried any Lidl's yet, but i seen a centra get a delivery from a massive supervalu truck with loads of non-logo fanta and coca-cola stock, felt sickened by it. And have their machine turned off since day 1.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    yes there's a list going around somewhere, and a barcode tracker thingy where you can type in the number on the backcode into the tracker online to see if the RVM will accept these cans, so its easier and does'nt require you to bring a whole bag of cans/bottles to the machine to try each of them out.

    I Don't believe we're allowed to leave any can's/bottles behind for the shop to sort out. They might have a bin for rejected recycleables, but in my opinion f that, if my stuff is rejected im keeping it for scrap metal or bringing it else where.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    some dealz shops have 24 can slabs for 8. not in the freezer section but up near the counter, or just before reaching the counter

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



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