Cork developments

The planned high frequency interchange at Kent between the Luas and the commuter rail would achieve all that and more without the need for dual gauging the line. It would also prevent conflict between the Cobh heavy rail train and a theoretical slower Luas using the same line.

If we got what is planned we'd have a pretty good transport system without adding on fantasy elements that aren't on the radar.

https://twitter.com/JTPHealy/status/1751240147838894327?t=zhZjc7rZzSM8E8VAMdZwmA&s=19

What's the story with the building in the foreground of that photo ?

Every time I'm in Cork I pass and think both the building and location are ripe for development. Would be amazing to shift Marina Market over to there.

I don't know why you are talking about Horgan's Quay 🤷

That sounds like a made up story to me. That building was in use with security for years. There were no junkies in the building or car park. I know, I was in it lots of times. There used to be gatherings of people on the footpaths outside the building, in public areas. You don't demolish a building because people congregate outside it!

Now, it is possible that after they evicted all the artists, prior to demolition that junkies moved in but that building functioned extremely well for years providing much needed arts space in the city. Nothing selective about my memory regarding that building, at all!

I'm not going to address yours flood relief whataboutry. It's not relevant.

Took me all of 3 mins to find this and I've seen the survey photos of what the inside looked like before demolition so 🤷‍♂️

I'm normally pretty good at seeing both sides of an argument but I honestly have no idea what you are trying to argue and it seems you have delved into the realms of ridiculousness to try and make some case, maybe you should ask the government who moved their tax office out of it instead of "saving" it, the council who gave BAM permission to demolish it or the home owners who are happy not to be living next to Junkie-town anymore?

I'm pretty sure there is a strong Venn diagram of "People who objected to BAMs original plans for the site holding up development until it became nonviable" and "People who are now giving out about the site not being used"

I think the point some postets are making is that the "tax office" on sulluvans quay had 3 phases, government offices - followed by art studios - followed by dereliction ,

It was demolished because it was derelict - it was derelict because the building was closed and security staff gotten rid of .

For BAM it suited them to demolish the building and have an empty site - they took steps to get to that ..

Some nice drone footage of progress at Camden place

Okay but it was Revenue that sold it to BAM all the way back in 2006 so id guess they paid top money for that site and leaving it idle for so long is bad business for BAM too.

I get people liked it, for me it was run down building that wasn't even interesting enough for the most boring of professions - tax collectors - to be worth trying to refurbish it.

I'm sure the council could have gotten a good deal on it from Revenue but didn't want it either and were more than happy to grant permission for it to be demolished. I never stepped foot inside it when BAM let it be used as an art space but I cant imagine it was close to complying with modern fire or building regulations and would have not been cheap to heat.

Lets be honest if the building was in good condition BAM would have just refurbished it into offices or apartments, was probably full of asbestos too.

So yeah I wouldn't consider waiting over 10 years to demolish it as being "quickly" and lets be clear BAM had full planning permission to knock it as and when they pleased.

I mean if people are going to get up in arms about sites not being used id focus that on your tax payer funded public bodies, HSE let St Kevin's sit there since 2002!

The city council suspends rates for these buildings, arts grants from city and national arts bodies cover some of the running costs and the rest need to be generated by the artists themselves, that's how these have run previously. The National Sculpture factory runs this way, "Camden Palace" ran this way and lots of other do too. The building stays in ownership of the developer, and unfortunately they obviously need to appoint a building manager, so that is a cost on them for sure.

SuperValu Páirc Uí Chaoimh it is.

Since we"re on site clearing and (supervalu) pairc ui caoimhe , is the site where the marquee used to be just being cleaned up and cleared , or is it the start of development?

drove past CMP site for the first time in months today. any update on whats going on in there now? would be great to see that rolling

Excellent, thanks for posting.

After seeing what Diageo did with their small plant, in the James's site, I'd really love that building kept.

Orders of magnitude size difference but it could be a fantastic job