UK to ban disposal vapes and buying tobacco

Not the person to whom this question is addressed, but while not completely harmless, vaping is far less unhealthy than smoking. So moving from smoking, while still addicted to nicotine is an overall healthy move.

The vapor is mainly propylene glycol which is also used in asthma inhalers. Are you against those too?

I think if a fire alarm is set off by a vape, then they need to be redesigned as it is not smoke. Vape looks like smoke but it is actually small droplets, an aerosol of mainly propylene glycol. Cop on like yourself!

I have read a few comments here and people need to educate themselves a bit more before spouting some of the comments I read. I bought a vape in 2013 and after being a 40 a day smoker when drinking, 20-30 a day normally for over 40 years, I have not smoked since that day. My getting up in the morning went from coughing up 3 lungs to no coughing within a month. I then started to look into the actual process of making the liquid I was buying.

I purchased enough flavours and enough pharmaceutical food grade propylene glycol and vegetable glycol which I blend to the consistency I like from a company in Germany that was closing down to last me longer than I will be alive! I make my own NON nicotine liquid and my own coils for my mods, I just like the feeling and throat hit I used to get when wasting a fortune on cigarettes. I spent €400 on my initial purchase of the liquids but have probably saved god only knows how much.

I fully agree that disposable vapes should be banned and a lot more restrictions be placed on certain aspects of the industry, but not to just go on a witch hunt with blinkers on and banning a perfectly good way to get people from smoking.

Of course you do. You started smoking.

The UK Government are only banning disposable vaping products though:

The U.K. government on Monday announced it will ban disposable vapes, citing an "alarming rise" in the number of young people using them.

There will also be new restrictions on how vapes can be packaged and displayed, as well as the flavors they can come in.

Brightly colored e-cigarettes which are used once and thrown away have proliferated in the U.K. and other countries in recent years.

Pointing to the nicotine content that is typically present in many vapes, the U.K. government on Monday warned that withdrawal from the substance can sometimes cause "anxiety, trouble concentrating and headaches. While vaping can play a role in helping adult smokers to quit, children should never vape."

It is illegal to sell vapes to consumer under the age of 18 in the U.K., but according to government figures, 9% of 11- to 15-year-olds use them. The number of children vaping has tripled over the last three years, it said.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/01/29/disposable-vapes-to-be-banned-in-uk-after-warnings-of-risks-to-youth.html

It just means children are just going to have to buy them online.

It's all optical now ionization is gone pretty much gone

EI don't even manufacture them now

British democracy isn't quite like those others where people vote for their governments. Brit's buy their government.

Tories defend £350K vaping boss donation

From the BBC website.

It puts any risks to children and the pain of addiction into clear pespective does it not.

Like Brexit, the welfare of the public and the welfare of those the public send to speak and act on their behalf in Britain are two widely different topics.

Coca cola was changed a long. long time back.

Fortunately it's rust removing chemicals were left in though, just the addictive stuff removed.

Coke the drink isn't addictive. Sugar is harmful, but it's attraction was programmed into humanity as well as many animals simply as a means to grab as many nutrients as rapidly as possible so that competitors would not strip your store.

If Coffee was seriously addictive, I would be well and truly hooked. I have never heard of a coffee drinker being treated for withdrawal, going to NA or seeing them on sidewalks with the dog and blanket begging for the price of a fix.

Were it to have the most remote tendancy toward addiction in all but an insignificant number of users compared to other drugs, do you not think it would be a desireable excuse in the courts for everything from parking offences to murder?

"I was reeling under the effects of a Nescafe Gold Blend" does not quite have the same kudos to it as "I consumed six pints and a couple of bottles of whisky" when up in court for writing off a few vehicles and their passengers does it?

They absolutely are triggered by vapes which is the way I test mine (ionization i.e. radioactive type) at home. They detect small particles in the air and they don't need to be redesigned simply because some people can't see that vaping indoor is inconsiderate to other people.

Have you ever seen anyone do any of the above for cigarettes?? Or use fags as an excuse for writing off other vehicles??

Fair enough. That was basically how they started, and while lots of people use them for smoking cessation there are a lot of people who started and continue with just vaping.

The main issue I see is that, whether they would have taken up smoking in the absence of vaping or not, those people are addicted to nicotine now. Maybe they will all stop cold turkey - but maybe many of them will take up smoking to get their hit instead, which would be a disaster for everyone but the revenue office.

The most likely thing I see is that people will turn to the likes of Zyn or other nicotine pods. Those are very popular now in Silicone Valley and similar places, where smoking and vaping are déclassé but the nootropic effects of nicotine and its longer-term protective effects against things like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's are all the rage.