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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,835 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Bealham is probably our best TH now and I'd start with him. LH is a real worry. Porter really needs a big season. If he could just stay square in the scrum instead of boring in and getting pinged for penalties all the time.

    Hope Crowley and Nash's defence holds up, all we need is for them to be steady and do the basics well.

    Marchand will be a loss to the French lineout if he doesn't start so need to go after their throw early. Mauvaka is great around the pitch but his throwing is iffy.

    Hope we see another couple of players break into the team and stake a claim. We have a real lack of quality wingers for some time now with 2 imports our first choice and the drop off to the next in line is big. We really don't produce speed merchants. No doubt the late development of the 7s programme hasn't helped.

    Roll on Friday night 😃🐓☘️



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    Murray is a truly bizarre selection if this is true, otherwise I like it. Bench would have some impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I'd be surprised if we went with a 6-2 split as our coaches have never seemed interested with it in the past.

    On the other hand, we've a lot of very good forwards and France will undoubtedly be the biggest physical test of the entire tournament.

    If Baird and Conan both make the bench I guess POM and VDF play for 60 each before making way. Doris will shift to open side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭TRC10


    So Ireland are following Leinster down the South African path



  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alessandro Vast Numskull


    As leinster go so to will ireland rightly or wrongly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    I posted about him in the Champions Cup thread the other night... I discovered that stats site over the weekend. Coombes is carrying into contact... and if I am reading it right... on purpose, ideally committing tacklers, and with a view to offloading. And is hitting the gainline better than most, but as you say, not making huge metres per carry.

    Here was my reading of it from that thread in relation to his carrying:

    "He's top carrier of URC in Europe (I thought those stats were for Europe and not just leagues, think I'm wrong on that?) and 4th overall (when including players from English/French leagues). Only 7 of his carries weren't into contact... he's 55 carries ahead in that regard of URC players! Very clear what his role is. Of that Top 20 (carriers) he has the lowest dominant carry rate... but he's 8th for gainline success. He's consistently making some very hard yards is my reading of that?

    In addition, of those Top 20 carriers he's 2nd for committing 2+ tacklers to his carries.

    Can't find offloading stats for Europe here but he's well capable of an offload. At the very least he's freeing up space in the backline if we get quick ball, which if you look at Munster's linebreaks stats or the likes of Nankivell's stats alone... appears to be working, maybe? Also, he's Munster's second highest offloader for the season behind Frisch (Source: Munster website) so maybe that solves that one?"

    As I said in that post, I guess it depends on what coaches want from their players/gameplan.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Clontarf_Jazz


    Ouch GT in the IT has Ringrose out with a shoulder injury & James Ryan not starting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    The France team has been named. Still very strong despite their injuries and absence of Dupont.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    L'Equipe leaked it on Monday night, I believe. Think everyone was just copying and pasting from then.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Happyhouse22


    If you mean team as in starting 15 then it definitely has, I remember a stage when Humphreys coming off the bench was Ulsters only involvement. If you mean 22/23 I do t remember it happening but would be surprised if it hasn’t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Ireland team is as Thornley predicted. Ringrose is out, McCarthy starts and a 6-2 bench split.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Looks good, lots of impact off the bench. Murray could be invaluable in the end game with Crowley and Frawley’s lack of experience at this level. Only one that gives me any concerns is Healy. Wouldn’t like to see Porter coming off early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭roverjoyce


    That's a bizarre bench with the 6/2

    JDV has to play full game - no replacement 7, POM wont play 80

    Who's coverering wing even centre - You can do this with Ringrose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Shehal




  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Frawley plays 12. Conan or Doris can switch to 7 if needed, but teams generally don't put a sub 7 on the bench.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Doris could play the entire 80. He was our back up 7 for the World Cup and will shift there if Baird and Conan come on.

    JGP would maybe shift to the wing in the event of injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    Presumably Keenan moves to the wing and Frawley goes to 15 if we need it.

    And Frawley or Crowley to 12 if we need a centre.

    And if it's a double injury then Gibson park ends up on the wing but that's the risk you take.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    No Ulster player in the 23. Murray benches ahead of Casey. 6-2 bench.

    A lot has changed since RWC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Doris covers 7. POM at a pinch. Baird and Conan will likely replace VDF and POM. JGP can cover wing.



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  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Benjamin Cold Sorbet


    If needed, I presume we'd have to push Keenan to wing and put Frawley at 15.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,832 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    a lot of the calls which were predicted have come through. McCarty included, Henderson dropped, Ryan benched, Nash starts. Really hurt by ringrose picking up a shoulder injury, but lets see what Robbie can do. Hopefully he has shaken off the cobwebs of a poor start to the season.

    Our bench is hugh, literally, including out back cover. must be the biggest and heaviest reserve bench we've ever put out. Kelleher, Healy, Bealham, Ryan, Baird and Conan is both a massive and mobile (excluding healy) bunch.

    I like the 6/2 split because this will be a war of attrition. Dante and Ficou versus Aki and Henshaw is mouth watering.

    Delight for Nash, i think he may be the bolter of the tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,129 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I like it, shame about Ringrose but there’s a lot to like about that team.

    very strong bench to come in up front especially. Always a risk with 6-2 but it’s calculated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Henshaw hasnt shown anything since his pre WC injury to have me confident he can do anything like the job Ringrose does at 13.

    Great chance for him to get back where he was and he has the best help inside him.

    Gotta say im less confident now due to the inexperienced 10, the rusty 13 and the debutant winger, but its france without dupont and thats a big difference, i dont think they will go unbeaten without him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    For whatever reason, I just aren't my normal self for this 6nations. Possibly due to the world cup. I really have less Interest in this than I usually do.

    Ryan on the bench is a mistake, he'll not be a good impact replacement, imo. Murray shouldn't be in the 23. France are weaker so a win is attainable. Faz not committing to change for this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    In the words of @TRC10....

    I can't wait for this. We're going to win and win well.

    I love rugby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    In fairness to Henshaw he’s been improving with each of his last couple of Leinster games after a quiet start to the season. He was excellent in Welford Road (albeit at 12). He won’t let us down. Would be more worried if he goes down with an injury and we have to shift Aki to 13.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Not sure I’d want Casey and Frawley at 9/10 closing out a game with 10 to go at this stage of their careers. Murray is the horses for courses selection.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,832 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    France have a lock who hasnt played test rugby in almost 5 years, a 13 playing on the wing and second choice half backs.

    They have plenty of rust and inexperience themselves.

    if we can match them up front and make their ball messy, that will severely reduces Jaliberts impact on the game, which we really need to do.



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  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Benjamin Cold Sorbet


    What do you mean he's not committing to change? What change did you want to see?

    He's brought in Joe McCarthy into the second row, changed the shake up on the bench with a 6-2 split, and brought in Crowley and Nash for first 6N starts.

    Obviously those latter two are influenced by retirement and injury, but that's the nature of it. He's never going to just shake things up for the sake of it.



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