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Is Galway a City in Decline?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Ya I don't know if they have this level of sophistication. Might need to ask local Cllr to do some digging about this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,481 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    It looks like No is the short answer to my question. These are overviews and static as far as I can see..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Limerick City Centre is much bigger though.

    Both City's could do with a tram line now IMHO, one LINE going East -> West for Galway and Northeast to South West for Limerick.

    Should be easier for Limerick. City Centre has loads of room to facilitate this, big streets filled with car parked cars on both sides



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Limerick is bigger and also has more potential for growth also I think.

    It has a bigger hinterland also, even though it shares it with Cork.

    Galway will always be bigger for tourism and hospitality though, unless Limerick makes a big effort in this area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,079 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Don't even need to go as far as a proper tram. Just have routes on fully dedicated bus lanes like the Belfast Flyer.

    Limerick will never match Galway for tourism. Galway just has way more of the little streets and wild countryside that fits the idealised view of Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    If Limerick gets its act together and becomes a "cool" Irish urban place for locals to live and get around; the tourists will follow. Going to take a few decades (same for Galway City)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,481 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Newt time you walk along. look up at the first & second floors in town. Peeling paint, green algae, cracked masonry, general disrepair. Tourists notice this and it something that is talked about

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭berrecka


    Never look above the ground floor in Galway City - its manky up there!

    The architectural stock is pretty poor to begin with, but the state of disrepair and disregard is a disgrace!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    The size of both city centres is kind of irrelevant really. Limerick is lifeless in the city centre. It's a good bit behind both Galway and Cork in terms of vibrancy imo.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,079 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Paris and New York are fuked for tourism so.

    You are right on the algae though. Shocked me when I moved home to Ireland how much moss and algae we have on everything. Forget the green fields the true meaning of the Emerald Isle is the walls and paths.

    Well of course its behind the much bigger Cork. I hear this "lifeless" thing from country people who work with me or locals both of whom never actually go there and it's just not true. Quieter than Galway at night because there are less tourists and there is no focal point streets like Shop St. and surrounds. We only have that during the day with the cafes.

    Limerick is where it is which is 3rd or 4th in most things in Ireland same as Galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Whenever i've been to Limerick, the lack of buzz and an atmosphere in the centre in comparison to other cities in Ireland is always apparent to me. Saying that though Bedford Row and Little Catherine Streets are nice. I like those streets The people are friendly as well. I think post covid all of our cities and towns are in bit of a downwards spiral.

    You have things like vacant retail units, and too many vaping and second hand mobile phone shops etc. Lack of a garda presence in an issue in all our cities and towns as well. Galway to be fair doesn't seem to have as bad a heroin problem in comparison to Dublin, Cork and Limerick. Granted Galway is a smaller city than the other three aforementioned cities as well.

    Galway has Connemara and the Aran Islands on it's doorstep. Cork has Kinsale and West Cork in general on it's doorstep. I just think Limerick has a lot to do, before it can draw in the tourists in the way that Galway and Cork can imo.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,079 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I don't think Limerick will ever draw in the tourism to that degree. It's just not that kinda place.

    A good thing about busy streets like Galway in relation to junkies is even if you have them they get lost and are generally a shy group in crowds. Give them space and a bit of quiet and they get brave enough to start their antics of screaming up and down streets at each other.

    The vacant stores and lack of marquee shops is something everyone thinks their city has but sadly it's something all cities are facing so I hate the self loathing and hyperbole thrown at councils you see on social media. If Galway can keep the area between Eyre Square and Spanish Arch mostly vacant free it will be doing better than most. Anything vacant outside that area and the little hospitality area around the Roisin Dubh might as well be turned to housing at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,094 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    If Galway can keep the area between Eyre Square and Spanish Arch mostly vacant free it will be doing better than most. Anything vacant outside that area and the little hospitality area around the Roisin Dubh might as well be turned to housing at this stage.

    Absolutely agree. The move online, accelerated by Covid, has fundamentally changed retail. It's now only about products that need in-person experiences, right-now delivery or aren't economical to deliver, eg cups of coffee, cheap items, hairdressing / beauty services.

    Even Middle Street, we should be reverting back to housing or ground-floor offices. (A good bit of it of it is alreay housing)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Lord Baron Lane 8


    I think the cities of Dublin ,Cork, Limerick ,Galway have all good and bad points but why has Waterford City falling so behind the other 4 Cities ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Not having a university means it has a brain drain. Also less multinationals set up here because of this.

    Also traditionally it hasn't been on the tourist trail although it's improving in that respect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Agree.

    Limerick is rather plain and just wont be a tourist destination like Dublin or Galway.

    Galway should have a more ambitious plan for growth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Lord Baron Lane 8


    I think Galway City would look great if had a riverfront like Limerick City .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yes, Galway City doesnt seem to do mucb to improve itself.

    Lots of potential but no investment.

    There is no reason why it couldnt plan to overtake Limerick in size, as its naturally a much more attractive place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Limerick has potential. Also it's a gateway to Cliffs of Moher, Shannon, Bunratty, Adare etc and is on the tourist trail from Kerry to Galway, so it'll always have a fair amount of tourists.

    It could do with a hostel though maybe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Lord Baron Lane 8


    what is hold back Galway City it needs a ring road also I think it would be great if there was a light rail from Limerick city to Shannon Airport and the People of Galway and Cork could all use this instead of Dublin Airport .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Its pretty dull really.

    I have been there mid week a few times and its exceptionally quiet.

    Small tourism potential, sure. But Galway is certainly better placed to grow tourism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Lord Baron Lane 8


    Galway City & Dublin City have the most of the tourist for sure all the bus tours all bring you this is a win for Galway and Dublin .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Lord Baron Lane 8


    Galway City needs a Riverfront like Limerick City this would show confidence as a City .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Dublin obviously has by far the most tourists, but Galway or Cork would be a distant 2nd.

    The buses go where there is demand for people to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I still think it has potential with a bit of vision.

    One thing about Limerick is that pretty much all of its big amenities like Universities, Shopping centres, cinemas, sportsgrounds, theatres, venues etc are located outside the city centre.

    Even the big places of employment are outside the city centre like Raheen, Shannon, Castletroy etc.

    So this sucks all the energy out of the city center.

    This is quite difficult to reverse. You can't move UL or Thomand Park into the city centre.

    What the city centre does have though is all the pubs and clubs except the UL ones, so it's probably lively enough at night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,079 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Attractive" in terms of looks doesn't have a lot to do with growth. Easy to say Galway could "plan" to overtake Limerick but just as easy to say Limerick will do the same.

    Do you think Limerick has no potential or loads of investment ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,132 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yes.

    If the Government really want to depressurise Dublin and Dublin Airport and land and transportation, they have simply got to provide the big infrastructure in the regional cities.

    The Galway Ring Road, completion of the N40 orbital in Cork, light rail in Cork, Limerick and Galway. Heavy rail connections to Shannon and Cork Airports. High quality motorways to the seaports like Rosslare, Ringaskiddy, Foynes etc.

    I know this stuff is planned, but they really must get the finger out and commit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Limerick has potential for investment, just like any place does. It has done well for itself, economically.

    But its still bland and umattractive.

    Galway is attractive but has not grown or developed to its potential.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Still the best city/town to live in on west coast not even close

    im happy out here only other place I’d want to live is dublin



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