Russia - threadbanned users in OP

the focus in the tech was large multimillion dollar drones, the push in this war is the Lancet type drones and indeed the cheap FPV ones. Russia didnt have this tech in common use 2 years ago so thats a big change and if you belive russian hype the next gen Lancets will be networked in "swarms". The west should be concerned about the cost of systems like Patriot, a Patriot round costs over a millions dollars and the system costs $400m? the obvious strategy would be to exhaust/destroy them with drones costing 10-20K

We see with the Patriot system in Kyiv the vast majority of drones and missiles are shot down. It's an expensive system but it's effective. If the Russians or Chinese come up with a weapon to beat it then that will be a game changer, but so far they haven't. Is the Patriot system in Ukraine even the most modern one? I thought I read somewhere it wasn't, but I could well be mistaken

What missile is this? Do you have any articles about it? Thanks.

I found this article about Russia's use of electronic warfare https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/

The KH-22 an upgraded anti ship Missle as of last week they fired 10 and all 10 hit there targets zero interceptions,seem kinzhals are getting through too , only 39% of kinzhals have been successfully intercepted over Ukraine despite their intercepts earlier in the year

I asked if you had evidence that China was providing military technology to russia and you just posted a graph of electronic equipment and machinery that is being sent to russia from China. I don't think this is adequate evidence to back up the claims you are making. Maybe the spikes on the graph are wealthy russians getting some new washing machines or TVs for Christmas.

My other point about putin's forces not being stronger now was linked to figures I posted on the recorded losses they have suffered in Ukraine. The forces at the start of the war minus the numbers lost makes a smaller number with evidence I have seen that the very newest types of putin's weapons are being lost. If they wanted to start a war without the weapons being developed by modern armies elsewhere in the world for decades then that does not make them stronger now. The copperhead guided artillery round was first developed by the USA about 50years ago so to be celebrating putin's forces catching up with this type of technology since they attacked Ukraine is just sad.

I seriously doubt your idea that eliminating the bulk of their old equipment along with the lives of huge numbers of their young men somehow will help them evolve into something stronger militarily makes any sense.

they were good enough to take out NATO sourced armor over the summer, which is why you dont hear much about Leopards, Challengers or Abrahms anymore. No idea on the behind the lines use of them, if Ukraine dont have to ration their air defense systems thats one thing , if there is an attrition element to this thats different or its just the cost of doing business, fire a hundred drones, 15 of them hit the warehouses etc they are trying to take out?

How do you know all these missile's not shot down are hitting their targets? Russia has a history of inaccuracy with many missile strikes. AFAIK there wasn't even mass power outages after the most recent missile hits.

They might not be necessarily aiming for power stations,they previously targeted grain stores in Odessa causing serious damage and causing the price of grain to increase on the global market, people are dieing during these strikes too ,shahed drones are relatively slow moving targets and are easily dealth with using anti aircraft guns and Gepards , air launched ballistic missiles are a bigger problem and more difficult to shoot down , 61% of kinzhal Missles are getting through and so far 100% of KH-22s launched are getting through and hitting targets that's a problem that could get a lot worse

It would suit propaganda to say that they can shoot down these missles, unfortunately severe building damage and death's aren't so easy to spin, I believe that they aren't able to shoot you ballistic missiles as easy as it was previously made out after the early success shooting down a kinzhal earlier in the year , they have launched 65 kinzhals and only intercepted 25 the other 40 missles hit ,

I heard they might be getting another patriot and missles but delivery won't be happening sometime after 2025

So just to clarify on those figures and a timeline, the 65 kinzhals that have been fired, have been since the start of the war. This was a time when Ukraine didn't have anything to take down ballistic missiles.

Since Kyiv has been under protection of at least 1 patriot system, Russia has fired 25 kinzhals at Kyiv and Kyiv has shot down 23.

You're looking at missiles either fired at Kyiv before the patriots arrived or missiles fired at places in Ukraine where there is zero patriot cover to make the assumption that they aren't able to shoot down ballistic missiles as easy as they previously made out?

They definitely had successes against the kinzhals,it's not the not the unstoppable Wonder weapon many claimed it was including Joe Biden , but they arent having complete success against them they took down 25 out of 60+ launched now add the danger of the KH-22 which they haven't intercepted any , anti air defence systems like other big ticket military assets there isn't a infinite supply of both the launchers and missles , for instance several EU countries have only recently ordered more patriot missles (1000) and number of launchers,but they won't be delivered until in after sometime after 2030 , that's what they are up against now they will have to prioritise what they engage and weight up the costs of either shooting everything down or only shooting down the most dangerous targets,

Why would they not be targeting power stations more? Taking out power stations would be far more demoralising to the population than sporadic bombing of civilian buildings. It would also be devastating to the Ukranian war effort.

Can't help but be thoroughly amused by this!😂