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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Don’t do sit-ups. They’re terrible for your back.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭swededmonkey


    try butterfly situps. Removes the need to anchor your feet and engages your core/ab muscles much better imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I don’t prescribe my weights based off a DOH max so that’s prob the difference!

    My general approach is DOH until it fails, then mixed/hook, then straps. Allows me to tax grip and move heavy weight.

    Typically rarely need the straps for anything under 5 reps. Particularly if hooking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,390 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I don’t base %s off DOH max either, not even sure what it is.

    But it highlights that DOH grip failing is not due to fatigue at high reps, but simply the load being too high. Would likely fail at the 1-5 rep equivalent.

    12 rep Romanians tonight. Will go for 15 and move up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Decline press up q, I get a piercing pain above the shoulder blade on an off on one side, is there a stretch or other exercise I can do to get rid of it? it shouldnt be a warm up issue as its about my 3rd or 4th exercise in and will have done a set of normal press ups first

    Post edited by silverharp on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Try reducing the height of the decline. It will put less load on your shoulder and you can build up from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,390 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Losing 30kg of fat will require a prolonged and sustained calorie deficit. That is not really conducive to building muscle, so I'd limit my expectation for how much muscle you can build. But bare in mind when losing weight you will look more muscled, and when adding resistence training you will get stronger without needs to add muscle mass - through neurological adaption.

    Bands can add as much resistance as you need. To get really heavy résistance, you need a frame or rack to which the bands can be anchored. A mix of bands and weights is probably best.

    When you tried benching, when you say failed, do mean failing a rep? How do you know it was triceps failing? Just because you can't feel chest working doesn;t mean it isn't working



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ok that makes sense, when I started working on pressups, I didnt remember it being a issue , there might have been a gap and then when I got back to it it appeared, something obviously shifted.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Maybe a dumb question,.but how do you guys decide on fitness goals?

    I'm a bit torn for the new year.. I've started doing strength fairly recently, and while progress has been slow due to not having too much time, there has been progress and i am enjoying it.

    My goal was to do strength twice a week and run twice a week which i see as very time effective and great all round benefits.

    But now I am torn whether to focus on this and put in some good park run times, sign up to 10ks and maybe adventure races in the summer, all the while gradually increasing strength

    Vs

    Focusing one 3 solid strength shifts a week and getting to body weight bench, 1.5 bw squat, 2 bw deadlift.

    I think both are great plans. So how to pick one?

    Maybe just shut up and do one says you.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?



    [mod note]Please see a physio. This could be a medical issue

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't think working on getting to bodyweight bench, 1.5 bodyweight squat or twice bodyweight deadlift should necessarily interfere progressing in another sport, like park running or adventure running. If you're already close to those numbers, it will be easier, of course.

    If you really had to choose, or prioritise them, personally I would say go with the lifting, unless you hate it.

    There's just too much evidence these days as to the broad benefits of resistance training for health, it's hard to look past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,390 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Could definitely reach those numbers in lifting and some decent 10k times by training both only twice a week.

    Lifting is not my main focus, have only lifted twice a week for years. BW Bench would be light warm for or a very high rep set.

    I'd even say 1.5x Bench, 2x squat and 2.5x deadlift is achievable lifting twice a week. Will just take a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Appreciate your perspectives, thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I just think about what excites me the most really.

    I like to think "where would I love my fitness to be at in a year's time?", and then work back from there to decide how I'm going to train.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    thanks but I dont think so, not had any injury, and no other exercise, dips , pullups, normal/close pressups , oh press causes this. Lowering the height has worked so far so ill increment that over time and it might just work out the niggle , if not its just one of those things

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Fasted walking question...

    So, I usually cycle quite a bit. But during the winter months my activity on the bike drops dramatically because I absolutely hate cycling in the winter. So, to offset the drop I tend to walk. I'll do 5 miles in about 1 hour 10 minutes and recently started to do it in the morning before I've eaten anything.

    The thing is, sometimes I'm not able to do this first thing after I wake up, which I understand the to optimal time to do a fasted walk. For instance, I couldn't get away this morning until a couple of hours after I woke up. I still didn't eat anything before the walk.

    So the question is, is my fasted walk 2+ hours after I awake the same as my fasted walk 20 minutes after I awake?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,390 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The same in the same in what way?

    If the distance/pace is the same it’s kinda of irrelevant when you woke up



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    its the same if you do the same distance and speed.


    Why don’t you break into a jog if you’re looking to replace the cycling?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    Interested in the walking discussion above. I’m 50 yrs old have a long history now of injuries Achilles tendon and knee mainly so have had to stop running. Have taken up walking would be doing 10k in about 1 hr 20 mins or thereabouts just wondering is walking any good for fitness and weight loss and control as an aid to a balanced diet. Thanks



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    If you walk at pace, particularly on an incline, it can be a low impact way to burn calories that doesn't present a risk of injury, or affect other activities.

    It's popular with bodybuilders and figure athletes, for example. Which is funny, when it's also associated with older people...

    I used to walk for about 45 mins on a treadmill, on an incline, twice a week, om rest days, and I could burn 500 calories at an absolute minimum.

    For reference, if I did an hour of really hard conditioning, it might burn 900, and that would take a lot of me for the next day.

    So yes, walking has a utility for weight loss / calorie control and general health, for anyone. Incline is good, and a decent pace, however. You really do need to get to the point of sweating, and stay there for the duration.

    Is that the same as "getting fit"? No, not if it's all you do. It will not develop signficiant cardio vascular endurance alone, unless you are coming in from a very low base. Best to mix it with resistance training and the odd more intense cardio workout.

    Paired with dietary changes it can, and regularly is, enough for weight loss though.

    I think the fasted early morning thing is myth though. I'd lean towards believing the calories expended is all that matters. Early morning is just convenient for busy people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I am by no means an expert on any of this so take it with a pinch of salt. But from what I've read, aiming for a fast walk is a good way to maintain a certain fitness level. Trying to hit 7kmh, or thereabouts, seems to be the optimal point and may be better for you than jogging? And doing it before you eat anything is better for burning off fat reserves, according to some. But as said above, that could be a bit of a myth.

    Again, I'll stress that I'm no expert in these matters and, frankly, there's a lot of conflicting information out there on all types of exercise and how effective they are.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It kills me too, so I cycle in the winter as well😂.


    But if I wasn’t cycling I’d jog. Start with a couch to 5K. You’d be surprised how quickly you’ll improve

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    “Getting fit” is all about progressive overload. If you go out and walk 7km in an hour every day, you’ll be fit to walk 7km in an hour. You’ll get to a point where it doesn’t even raise your heart rate much. Unless you’re coming from a really low base, it doesn’t seem like a good idea


    Jogging and then running is definitely a better option for the long term.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I tried it for a while but the impact on my legs was so bad I had to stop. I'm just not a jogger I spose. 😥

    In any case, the 5 mile winter walks do me fine and I get out on the bike when the conditions aren't too bad. I'll be on the bike today cos it's dry, but I reckon the wind will be a killer.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Did you go out and just jog for as long as you could? That’s the mistake a lot of people make.

    Look up the couch to 5k program, it could be the answer for you

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I worked up to a 5km run and every step of the way was awful TBH. And it's not as if I'm unfit or radically overweight. I'll regularly cycle 40 or 50km a day if conditions allow. But jogging just banjaxed me. It was murder on my legs that I had to just give up after a number of months. It's funny, I never got that way even when I played football!

    I might give it a go again and see what happens. But I can't say that I'm in any real hurry to try it.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Look man, I hear you. I used to run 75-80km a week for a while. Never enjoyed it, but it was good for me.


    I’ve been cycling so much the last few years I don’t run anymore, but I keep thinking I’ll do it again. You have to cycle 40km, to expend as much energy as a 10km run, on average. So it’s much better for burning calories.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,755 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    That might be the case. But a cycle is way more enjoyable. 😀

    ...except when I get rained on. 😡



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Cycling is definitely more enjoyable.


    In Ireland you’re as likely to be rained on in the summer as the winter though. Get yourself some good wet weather gear: Castelli Perfetto or Gabba jerseys, decent gloves and shoe covers.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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