Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

I wouldn't suggest it is far right no.

It limits asylum seekers only. So your issue is entirely with asylum seekers, no other immigrants? What limit would you suggest?

There were 13,000 approx in 2022, I don't know how many this year.

Also, housing is a supply issue. I'm not sure why you think financially well off people are unaffected by immigration? Immigrants to this country are at all levels of wealth.

I'm not a personal fan of the man no, I believe most politicians are interested in keeping their jobs and telling people what they want to hear.

It doesn't particularly matter what he says about immigration, our legislation covers immigration policy. He didn't draft legislation himself yesterday.

You wouldn't need to change immigration laws to deal with any of that. What you are describing is more about people gaming the system to their own advantage than anything else - the complaint seems to be government agencies failing to properly implement existing laws around claiming welfare and benefits etc.

That's not legislation though is it. It's a tweet.

The law says who can and cannot live here.

When you say us are do you mean the original poster I replied to or are ye sharing an account?

Can't remember asking you but thanks for your non contribution to my question to another poster.

Also please don't call me mate again if you feel the need to reply.

a national vote to facilitate. 

this is not our system of government. We are not a direct democracy. We elect public representatives to deal with policies for us.

Ireland ratified the Geneva convention and we have obligations under international humanitarian law. Every person has a right to claim asylum in whatever country they decide. How do you suggest Ireland putting limits on asylum seekers? And why just them? If there are housing issues in the country then everybody entering is putting pressure on housing stock.

Seems strange just to stop people who may be fleeing conflict, but we'll take language students, for example. So, we can actually take in people, just not the ones You don't want.

You seem a little prejudice towards financially well off people, this in particular, He doesn't really care about areas of deprivationns and refers to them only with horror as if there is a sub class of human in them.

totally prejudice based on nothing.

It does seem you see massive issues with housing, which is fair enough, we have had issues in this country with housing since the establishment of the state, and I completely understand if you are a young person hoping to buy your own home. It's funny though, your solution is to limit the asylum seekers only and not call on government to actually build and build and build.

Edit, just to add I accept you do mention refugees also

Heard Holly Cairns on Newstalk yesterday being interviewed by Ciaran Cuddihy, predictable interview.....Irish people immigrated everywhere....we rely on many immigrants for our workforce etc. Then both her and Cuddihy agreed we must get prepared for a large movement of people from south to north in the coming years due to climate change that will see far more arriving than whats currently arriving to Ireland, something Michael Martin has referenced also. Given that there are billions in Africa alone what exactly does she want us to do?, ramp up building so we'll have accommodation ready for all those arriving on our shores?

Holly Cairns became leader of a party when no body else wanted the job.

Her background is selling seeds and working for charities/NGOs.

She could have joined the cabbage heads like her mother, but chose to go with the social democrats.

She is an example of modern virtue signalling spoofing morons that years ago would be consigned to at most running student unions.

As someone said the sooner we have downturn the sooner all the chickens come home to roost and we start seeing a clearout.

And if newly unemployed Irish are screwed over so that Pavel, Georgi, Mohomed can keep all their welfare "entitlements", what happened recently will be childs play in comparison.

By then the quislings in the dail leading this will be out of here on the pigs back leeching money from some foreign organisation or other.

Watch our so called minister for justice will be off to some NGO gig, our taoiseach off to some UN gig (he probably got browny points for pi**ing off the Israelis), Pascal off to IMF, Gormless off to some NGO think tank, Mehole off to EU as commissioner.

A lot of the other ones will be retiring but a fair chunk of them are just gormless useful idiots who would swear black was white if they thought the MSM would laud them.

Why can't people see where this is going ?

What beggars belief is that you have so many so called educated young, and indeed no so young, people lauding this shyteology.

they must have skin in the game or they are complete idiots.

Just see what has happened around Europe to see where this is going.

This is a bit of an urban myth though. Vast majority of the non national population are working fulltime and paying taxes or are students.

The numbers of non nationals claiming benefits or social welfare are much, much smaller (apart from that situation with the Ukrainian refugees).

No it's factual. Even if you say 10% of the arrivals are going on welfare that's 10% of huge numbers.

Completey different scenario to Ms. Cairns whataboutery but I'm sure she knows that.

She's just hoping/presuming the general public are dumb enough to swallow her pony.

Care to backup that figure?. What kind of social welfare?, children allowance, pensions? This is back to the old argument that Irish people commit crime so why are we worried about bring more from outside. Irish people get social welfare so why not bring in more to claim it.

Which arrivals?

I would prefer to quote Mahatma Ghandi when he said "The measure of a society is how it treats its WEAKEST members".... The old, the young children with all sorts of illnesses, those with mental issues and anyone with any of those terrible diseases that can afflict any of us... All this cohort are affected by the wild west immigration system in effect at the moment overseen by incompetents... Health services stretched to the limit, public services stretched to the limit,overcrowded classrooms, billions of our taxes thrown into this hole enriching many instead of being used to improve the lot of the most vulnerable citizens in our society....public finances are finite and a day of reckoning will come, for some it'll be too late but for now the most vulnerable will pay the price for the manner in which this country is governed