Gardai now best paid workers in the state - CSO

No they're not.

I don't agree that the majority of jobs in the world get overtime. Possibly the majority of jobs in Ireland do. Most salaried private sector jobs don't.

In my experience of working in IT I've only ever known one company to pay overtime. The standard is you get promised time-in-lieu, which regularly you won't be able to take. I wouldn't know exactly how frequently it happens but it's not unusual for people to have spells of working 50-60 hours and get nothing back for it.

If you are working nights or weekend you get additional pay. Same in IT.

People working 50-60 hours and not on a salary which would warrant that much work need to look at their career choices. If you are given time-in-lieu and don't take it then again that is bad management by the employee.

Tell someone to work 50-60 hours and then hand them 40k salary and see what they say. Especially in IT. IT consultants would regular do longer hours due to the job's they have but what is their wages?

Actually Business Plus reported teachers are now the highest paid PER HOUR in Ireland.

Quote " Education is now the sector with the highest hourly earnings at €42.32, up 7.1% €2.80 from €39.52 in Q3 2022, ahead of information & communication, including IT, where hourly earnings rose 1.9% or 76c from €40.05 to €40.81."

I have worked in IT. I know exactly what you can and can't get. I also worked outside normal hours and got the rewards. I used to do a lot of nights shift/weekends when young to pump up the wages.

You gave an example, I think the best reference and well known is a Accenture consultant, massive wages but worked long hours. 50-60. They will do that for a few years and then jump before burn out with a nice package. But the junior Accenture staff will be working the standard 40 hours a week.

I provided the basic Garda wages. I never said they need a pay raise. I just pointed to the fact what they earn as a basic

The "toxic culture" is a few bad and majority are good. Don't try tarnish an entire organisation because of the few.

The IT average wage in Ireland is 60-70k. Majority won't work longer hours and most will work a standard 9-5 job. Some won't of course like network admin/server admins as they will have weekend work.

https://itshifting.com/ireland/salaries#:~:text=The%20average%20IT%20salary%20in,remuneration%20is%20offered%20in%20Dublin.

They weren't doing much "work" during the lockdowns there was basically zero crime and they were just standing around.

...once again, try it! teaching is no joke, severally under resourced schools, classes with many students with particular needs, and not enough resources to provide those needs, complete nut job parents, threatening everyone and anyone, yea, tis some laugh, teaching!

Whenever im in my GFs parents house, which is a lot these days, since we both moved to our parents houses, I see her mother who is a teacher working. Like all the time, even at 10pm.

I asked her one day why she is still working and she said her job doesnt end when she leaves the office.

Now thats fair enough to me, but if you want to divide their salary by the number of office hours then it should be spelled out that teachers are not to work out of office hours, if you want that figure to be correct. Id say the same of any job.

I dont get overtime in my job, but i stopped working after my contract hours were up when i realized i was being made a mug of in a performance review last year when they told me my current salary was benchmarked with the industry and was above average for my job, so there would be no raise (they said that to everyone). At that time i was doing 50 to 60 hours per week for the company. Im doing 37.5 now for the same salary. Even if thy raised my salary by 10% now it I wouldnt get the value out of my extra time, so they can shove it. Their move.

I dont think they can do zero hours.

Its not for me to comment on how hard or valuable anyone elses job might be, but i think when a survey is dividing the annual salary by the number of office hours only (for any job), this is bad research and should be thrown in the bin, instead of appearing in a newspaper for dramatic effect.

Let me make this a bit easier to understand.

Lets say I work in IT - which I do.

My company dont pay us overtime.

What is my hourly rate if my salary is €50,000 and I work 200 days a year from 9 to 5pm with an hour for lunch?

Now what is my hourly rate if I work for 200 days a year from 9 to 5 with an hour for lunch and I work an extra 1 hour per day without pay?

That is the danger of trying to pretend its the same value to the worker when you only count office hours.

Its the same kind of divisive attitude as saying that a Gardas salary is great because he gets more money for doing a week and a halfs work in one week and god forbid, gets paid properly for it.

Many have a nice secure, guaranteed little earner with average over €40 an hour, many do no work outside teaching hours except the odd grind nixer. Plenty of holidays and nice pension too.

You do not see many teachers being let go or becoming unemployed, or leaving for other careers.