Bienvenido to the New Presidente of Argentina- Javier Milei

it would be like if Bernie became President of the US, he might want to go full socialism , but the system wouldnt let him. A Libertarian minded candidate couldnt just do a "Jahr null" , Argentina would still need to operate borders or they could end up with too many people chasing health and education services which are paid for by the gov. etc.

But his idea is to privatise a lot of government services and cut government handouts. Would you want to move to a place where there is no safety net if you don't find a job?

If the government creates the right circumstances, i.e. no gov support for the unemployed, then surely people would think twice about Argentina as a viable destination. Thus, the government's need to control immigration is removed because the market would control it through the supply and demand of labour. If there's no work, people won't hang around.

Argentina is not exactly the most accessible country and I'd hazard a guess that most immigrants come from countries like Bolivia and Paraguay. Why make such a long trip with no guarantee of success when you could just stay at home and at least have some family support?

On the other hand, if they make it to Argentina and they find a way to make a living, it'll be because the market has provided for them.

At least, that's my understanding of the theory. I know it's not so simple in the real world.

absolutely, its an absolute sh1tshow, just to add, the dems are far from being a left party, so, build that wall!

...id say the average child knows, this is gonna end very very badly for most argentinians, so theres no real experiment at play here, as we already know the outcome, milei on the other hand, he ll be grand, he ll slink off, and will live happily ever after....

...(un)fortunately, ideologies rarely disappear, they ebb and flow throughout history, there will probably always be supporters of such.....

the economies that have done the worst tend to be socialist, Velenzuela, whereas Chile had done better in the past. The starting point has to be not running gov deficits and letting a welfare system get out of hand.

Cause a guy who gets political advice from his dogs is far more normal?

Sounds like a Middle Eastern country I know. Didn’t stop the Brits from giving that away

But there has to be an alternative that works.

If there's no or minimal government support, the government has to create the circumstances to encourage private enterprise and create employment. The government has a responsibility to provide for its citizens, one way or another. While doing so, the government also has to make sure that private enterprise does not take advantage of its citizens.

If it doesn't do the above, why should we pay taxes or obey laws? There is a social contract between the people and the government and both parties need to uphold their end.

I'm sceptical of those who push for a free-for-all model. Cut government spending and oversight and let the market decide. If it was starting from scratch, maybe, but such a situation, with the wealth, privilege and class structure already in place, means the rich have a massive headstart and will only become richer while the poor will have to work a lot harder to ever dream of catching up.

Like I said, I find the idea that someone can legally sell their organs for profit to be a bodily autonomy issue and I can agree with the principle of it. However, the reality is the people who end up selling their organs will be the poorest who have nowhere else to turn to. Milei is never going to have to do it. And again, this idea of "my body, my choice", if he were a purist, should be applied across the board but he's opposed to abortion and euthanasia so I doubt his commitment to the ideal.

There needs to be some restraint and control on the market and a government, elected by the people and, in theory at least, representing the people should be the ones doing that.

You can watch with popcorn but generally they cause more problems that have far reaching impacts on people's lives. Similar to Trump, this will likely be disastrous.

Eh, that is actually Singapore. The US is ranked 25th in the world.

You don't know what you are talking about really. Reganism and Thatcherism != Libertarianism.

You're the only person who brought "Nazis" into it but he is most definitely far right... That's not name-calling, that's just where he is politically...

you cant design the system to fail and currently it is, how many trillions does the US government owe? there are some qualities a system should have,prices should be falling with higher productivity, someone's salary should buy more next year than last. money and debt shouldnt grow faster than the population or productivity. Gov debt should be on a cycle to be paid off on a ~5 year rolling basis, borrow for the emergency but pay it back or you end up with debt not tied to anything in particular. Moral hazard should be part of the system, or you get Ireland for instance paying bankers back for bad bets, State pensions should be funded, not just an obligation based on future kid's income.

Ireland is a great example of a country where moral hazard is on high dose morphine as are most western countries, writing cheques based on defrauding the future

only because "far right" is a bastardised term, I would say Libertarian is the definition of far right, if it means the polar opposite of far left, ie being the opposite of an authoritarian state where the state tends to own everything and control everything eg North Korea.

Nazis on the other hand were authoritarian identititarians who controlled the means of production , pretty much like far leftists want today only "white men" would be the ones wearing the "yellow star" ....this will trigger someone lol , hitler was the original woketard

Who is a Nazi? Are we talking about Trump?

Trump is a lot of things, but a supporter of the National Socialism he aint.

He is perhaps more Mussolini, but using the term Nazi is sexy and elicits a more emotional response so that is why people use it, incorrectly in almost all cases.