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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭theboringfox




  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,004 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I think you’ve been waiting long enough. I’d start looking at other houses now and wouldn’t feel one bit bad about pulling out if needs be. I can’t remember if you said the contracts are exchanged or not but you’ve no guarantees they won’t delay further even after they’re signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    No contracts at all. That’s what rang alarm bells at the start. We weren’t told the first house had fallen through until we chased. We had 5 weeks of no contact from them or their solicitor to ours only the initial contact when sale agreed.

    since then it’s been a comedy of errors! Outbid and underbids accepted for cash buyers etc! The house they’re bidding on now is empty so if that ACTUALLY works out and I can’t foresee any major delays but it needs to be done in 10 days !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Also I can’t see the bidding lasting that long so should have answers quickly. It’s €15k over asking with our vendors the highest bidders as of yesterday. Cash buyer is at €10k over asking. Having the house empty should help. If it was lived in the cash buyer is probably ahead regardless of the price.



  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,004 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I'd be gone tbh. What's to say they won't issue contracts this week so as to stop you guys pulling out and then drag their heels closing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    being honest we should’ve gone a month ago at least. Now our AIP is out of date on the 4th of December. So if we pull out and don’t find a new house before that date we have to go through everything again to get AIP!!! That’s what our EBS advisor told us! We can receive a new loan offer before that date that’ll last 6 months!

    I always thought that AIP was gone once a loan offer was given!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    We’ve asked for contracts on numerous occasions and they haven’t given them so I can’t see them doing it now. We actually viewed the house they want now a few weeks back. I rang that EA to officially pull out today. She knew the story and that we were keeping our options open. It seems that my solicitor is the solicitor for people selling that house…….



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    JohnnyF know the area well. I genuinely think your asking price is too high being honest. Take a look at 15 Foster Terrace around the corner from you, almost 200k in the difference (can park on both sides of Foster Terrace too). https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/15-foster-terrace-dublin-3-county-dublin/4727082 I know different house styles but 200 is massive when that one is turn key, both ballybough end of road too, wouldn't consider your house Drumcondra. (again used to live there). Also your property isn't on myhome only Daft, would it be worth getting it added to myhome?

    There are a large number of 3 beds for sale in Dublin 3 atm, second hand market seems to have slowed in the area (perhaps rate rises). I'm not convinced car space is an issue, being so close to the city having a car isn't essential for city living.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭REFLINE1


    House is in a flood zone? That could be a factor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    yeah, I dont disagree with you, 200k is a big difference, but those houses are very different. Like very very different. Alot of people are saying that the ballybough end has a bearing, it might do, but I can't move the house!

    The killer on this is that every house we look at goes for at least 10% over asking where as ours is the opposite. I didn't set the price either, obviously the EA did but the market is not there maybe just right now. Hence the view of spending €10k to really push it next year. Its a risk that could backfire, but if we have nobody viewing, we have to do something!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    interesting. Been there since 2008. The last big flood was in 2002 and our block of houses didn't flood. The remedial works on the tolka were carried out in 2004/2005, yet still in 2009 (due to big floods in other areas), they took Flood insurance away. I had it the first year, but the next year, they made a big song and dance about it. Still don't have flood cover, and hasn't been any issues since we moved in 15 years ago.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Flood risk and being unable to get flood insurance is a big sticking point, I think you need to lower the price.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Not easy JF, especially when estate agent has set expectations. I’d look at what’s sold close by recently and what EA sold it and get them in for opinion with view to going with them. Not bring in myhome is a biggie. I sold a property in D3 this year and I’m surprised by how much has come on the market since. Defo get a second opinion before going car spot would be my two cents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    Its on Myhome alright, just not under 'clonliffe' for some reason.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    ah ok I couldn't see it on map view, best of luck with it, not easy when it isn't moving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    We signed and returned contracts to our buyer on Wednesday. Awaiting their drawdown and deposit of funds to our Solicitor now.

    Then it's redeem the balance of Mrs Banie01's mortgage and sort out the CGT calc.

    We wish our former tenants all the best in what's been their home since 2015, and now it's theirs lock, stock & barrel. We will arrange a housewarming gift of a Home store voucher for them when sale closes.

    That's us back to being a 1 house family and out of the landlord game for good. We were very lucky with our tenants, they've been there since we 1st let it out and we are delighted that we sold to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    Recent weeks we completed purchase of new home followed few weeks later by sale of previous home.

    We were looking for long time. I think in hindsight we were too focused on finding value and were chasing moving target. We had location as main factor so eventually accepted we were price takers. But at least we caught that same market selling too.

    It made a huge difference we did not have to sell to buy. Bank was defacto able to get comfortable we could cover old house mortgage with rent so we could get 3.5x still. Always intended selling but meant better placed bidding as not in chain and made moving out more comfortable.

    We just wanted some extra space as kids had come along since first bought and both now working from home for most of the week.

    I can't describe the weight off my shoulders. Its amazing seeing kids with space to move around in and change in them. Under no illusions that new house is it and will be pouring money into it for years. But amazing to be done.

    I loved checking in on boards to see how others getting on. Made me feel like was in it with others.

    Anyway keep going everyone. It is worth it in the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Beigepaint


    In general, for a new build, is it worthwhile getting extras done by the developer? Eg tiles, carpets, kitchen appliances, warddrobes. The developer said there are no choices and the stuff would match the show house which was lovely, and we aren't too pushed about getting our own specific tiles or paint colours until a few years down the road. I am leaning towards going with that as it would save us hassle to organise it ourselves after we move in and we have the money put aside to pay for it now.

    The only concern is that it could be an opportunity for a developer to pick up some extra profit at my expense, eg charging 400 to install a oven that costs them 250.

    Does anyone have any advice on this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    I am noticing few houses who initially when brought on the market 6 months ago, were flying off the shelf with bidding above. Now coming back on the market with different estate agent. So they didn't fly off the shelf.

    I wonder if the estate agents have some agreement between them like if you don't sell X house, I will take over in months later.

    Anyone else spotting houses coming back for sale, houses who apparently were flying off shelf in days?

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 joebert80


    To clarify.. A number of properties recently sold between a certain range. The price I listed at was at the bottom of this range. And also well below another unit that was on the market at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    I've not really been paying attention since buying, but I have seen this quite a lot. I'd say that in the case of a post-bidding war overshoot of tens of thousands, the "successful" bidder often realises what they've done when the emotional side of things calm down. Our good friend Auctionera seems especially adroit at generating sales well above the asking price that eventually fall through. It's a good example of how this egregious c**p from EAs is bad for sellers as well as buyers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I would get tiles done if it's on offer. At least they'll be included in the snagging list if the tiler does a poor job. No harm in asking if you can provide the tiles, if there's ones you like in particular.

    Painting is up to you. Personally I would do it myself.

    RE electrics, can you provide the appliances and have the builder fit them? I would much prefer to choose exactly the appliances that I want, not rely on whatever the builder provides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 FrozenDriveway


    I've seen this happen in Kildare, Meath and Dublin. Specifically, one auctioneer told me that it's far better to underprice, in this instance by €40k, by his reckoning, in order to drum up interest and so potential buyers think there is a lot of competition. That particular house went for €65k over asking in the end.

    But sometimes something will be well underpriced for good a reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    What I have noticed here in Galway City is signs with "Under Offer" plastered on them for a number of weeks, rarely seen that last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭SummerK


    So after an year or so, BOI agreed to consider my wife's income (she is on annual contract) for increasing the mortgage amount, but the new house price that was 400k last year is well over 470k now and there is no availability in the estate we're looking at the moment. The developer has cited prices might further move towards 500k in the next phase. Crazy times that we're living in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Yep, almost criminal how prices are creeping up.

    Our estate was advertised as 300k, which became 350k when I bought, and those in the next phase are at 380k. I noticed as well the houses in the next phase have a few little features removed to bring down costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Yet there are still articles knocking about that claim that house-prices are stabilising or even falling. Clown world never fails to deliver.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Paper never refused ink, and journalistic standards are p*ss poor. I would imagine that any variability is just seasonal demand rather than a trend.

    I was reading something about Irish property prices, and the consensus was that prices won't fall as sellers are not motivated enough to drop them.

    There's not enough quality housing for current homeowners to upgrade to, and the numbers in mortgage arrears are still very small as most are on fixed rates. So sellers are happy to wait for more motivated buyers.



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