Life passing by people in their 30s

Stop feeling sorry for yourself!

Plus, council housing should not have been bought on the cheap. If you could afford to buy one, then you shouldn't have been in one.

Do none of you think that having a large and growing amount of working people resentful of their lives due to housing is not going to lead to actions that hurt the income of high earning techbros like all of you?

Id actually love that. For renting to be just paying another bill. If we changed the culture views of renters being failures in effect we could fix most of the issues with housing. Ive lived outside Ireland for most of my 20s and rented with no issues loving life, when I came home family started about me having to get on the ladder at all costs, rent being dead money, treating me rentals totally differently to how they treat people buying a home. I went into a depression of feeling like a failure and Im desperate to get on the ladder just to be normal.

But if the culture around renting changed I wouldnt need to

You need a better family than you need a home of your own from reading your posts. Hands up I'm back at home with my elderly mother after years of renting, a marriage and divorce and a job loss (working again). Not ideal but the older I get the less I give a shite. I must have moved rental houses 15 times over 10 years, few house shares then moving in with the ex-wife and moving around a bit. The best thing about renting is any change in circumstance ie. job change, relationship change etc, desire to move anywhere else and you can go in a matter of weeks if you are single. My social circle half rent half own. You know whos happiest ? The renters. My ear is bent everytime I go out with the owners about mortages and negative equity. "oh you're planning to move then ?" "No. Forever home"

"So why does negative equity upset you ?". "Cos"

I do understand the lift on evictions is stressing a lot of people my GF included as those who had a decent rent rate are in danger.

I have never once had anyone, family or friends, look down on me for renting. My 3 siblings have their own houses and families. Great ! Each to their own. Even when I was married we both agreed we didn't want to buy property or have kids.

Just as well in hindsight !

Don't be beholden to a path in life just because others have gone down it and claim it to be all that. Be yourself and do what makes you happy. I guarantee you what you see in many as perfect ie. 4 bed semi, 2 parent 3 kid BMW in the drive is far from it.

I afraid he is getting paid to post

Keep taking the medication FFS it very important

Billy is not looking for solutions

What is the solution? Housing is unaffordable for single people in Dublin unless they are top 10% of earners and renting for life is not possible in Ireland. Im working two jobs to max my income but it would be years and years to buy. Im not looking for an easy street Im looking to pay my own way but Im not able to do it with the cost of housing and the lending restrictions. Its tough, and really damaging for mental health to be stuck in life. You have zero idea what its like and I've not done anything wrong. Im just trying to establish my life. Working hard is not enough anymore in Dublin

So what solutions do you see instead of talking down like Im on the dole or something

Billy move down to Limerick. Get a job in Stryker, Regeneron or Ely- Lilly when it's opens. Go on the two cycle shift starting at 45k you will be on 50K in no time, you could work permanent nights for a couple of year and have 5-8k more

You will buy a two bed in Limerick city center for 150-180k. You can travel by bus or train to Dublin to see your family anytime you want ( on the bus 25-30 euro return unfortunately not with Inarod Eireann).

Your sister will look up to you for taking responsibility and moving on with life.

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I am semi retired I left school 14 after my group cert I unfortunately had to move 70+ miles away from where I was born. I do a bit of farming and it keeps bread on the table. I do not expect to draw down my pension until nearer 70. That is another 8+ years away.

Lad, you can either spend your evenings moaning on this forum about the cost of housing, the foreigners and the tech workers or you can actually do something about it.

Learn to drive, move out of Dublin city, find somewhere within commuting distance or better yet, find a job that pays better and isn't based in a city.

Plenty of good paying jobs based outside cities, but still an easy drive when you want to meet friends and family .

The cost of housing and what you can afford do not match up, and won't match up in this decade the way things are going. This is the reality you need to face up to.

I didn't go travelling. I finished college in 2012 and had to move to London to be even able to get a job in a call centre at the time.

There is a shift coming a lot of Tech companies filled there open positions with relocated resources from low cost countries to mid to high cost companies. They are now investing head count principally in low cost countries. Someone vacates a position here it’s not replaced here. Our housing needs are linked to economic migration in all its flavours if we are no longer a default location of choice.

We still see notionally high FDI I’m concerned with the flag ship investments in place.

the latest IDA report summarises “The key areas requiring attention remain planning, housing, energy, water and wider infrastructure. Policies that support the continued availability of talent are also critical. Managing costs in the current inflationary environment and executing on planned capital projects will be challenging, but important for Ireland’s continued competitiveness.”  

Beware -Messengers often get shot 😀

I think there’s been a shift away from the “expected” norms of society of school college marriage house and babies which is actually wonderful because those norms just brought untold stress and misery for many.

However, it does come at a price.

Because there's no “rules” there’s also less guidance around how you can create your own success.

Had someone who left college in say 2012 ,went into the workforce to start their climb of the greasy pole, they would have got at least a 1-2 bed apartment by 2018 by themselves- mortgaged to the hilt of course but at least they’d be 6 years in to that now with a very decent increase in equity.

If instead they decided to “travel” and do casual work to keep themselves going, unfortunately they are probably now finding things quite tough. The clever people travelled but worked with the qualifications they had, building up experience be it in nursing technology etc - so you can travel AND make money And grow your career in your 20s but it’s down to the skills you have- someone leaving college with a basic arts degree is kindof fcked if they do the travel thing as they’re no bloody use to anyone - yes a few lucky ones with contacts and the personal skills will succeed but they’re the exception not the rule .

It’s back to the world doesn’t owe you a living and if you want something you’ve got to earn it or plan to get it .

I know a few people who 35 years ago bummed their way through their 20s- they’re now highly successful individuals but they worked bloody hard in their early 30s to get there.