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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    Vat at 23% and usually some outlay too for any fees they incurred. A good agent is worth it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Currently in the process of selling our "spare" house. It's been rented to the same tenants since she moved into mine in 2015. Happily, they are the purchasers.

    Our letting agent was a bit of Gowl tbh. The tenants had sent 2 letters and 3 emails to him, to let us know that they had received AIP and that whilst they were looking to buy. That their 1st preference would be to buy ours.

    Suffice it to say no message was passed on. I am very impressed with how they dealt with it tho. There is still a postal redirect in place for my wife on that address. They wrote a letter sent it to my wife but to their address 😉

    The Anpost redirect did the rest.

    A price was very quickly agreed and all passed on to the solicitors now. Ours seems to be a little on the slow side. Deeds were received by them 4 weeks ago and still nothing in terms of contract or exchange yet.

    The Mrs followed up yesterday to speed them along.

    So we are leaving the "landlord" game but, are delighted to see it's the current tenants buying. It's been their home for over 8yrs. Now it soon will be their own pile of bricks and tbh, even with mortgage rate increases, it is still far cheaper for them to buy than rent. Rent on 3 bed Semi-D in Limerick at the mo are stupidly expensive and anything in a good area even moreso.

    We are hoping to close before December and wish them all the happiness in the world once it's theirs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 zergetek


    Hi! How much would it cost a septic tank survey? Also can you recommend a good company to do it. The location is in county Louth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Bluefox556


    Follow up from me, since last week more than I thought could go wrong is going wrong.

    So the above mentioned Valuation came in fine, but not without something else happening.

    We had an issue with our HTB payment which we were told was received by our developer on the 2nd of Oct, but was actually mis-appropriated funds which were actually belong to another client.

    This had to be followed up with Revenue and turned out there was some issue with the developer claiming ours but this was sorted last week waiting for the HTB payout now since last Thursday. It's likely to be 1.5k short of what we were told we originally got, so that's another payment I'll have to make to our solicitor once this comes though..

    The new valuation we had done changed the value of the house from €340,800 to €340,000 (i assume typo by agent as the comparable properties where other units in the estate marked as €340,800)

    This has now prompted AIB to re-issue the loan offer this morning with some minor changes to reflect the changes in the value of the property.

    All my steps in AIB portal are now marked as uncompleted (even though we were 8/10 yesterday)

    So I think now I need to wait for the solicitor to receive this re-issued letter of offer and we sign it and send it back..


    Meanwhile I have mortgage protection and house insurance in force since 3rd of October as this was when my solicitor originally requested the loan cheque but now we are looped back to letter of offer stage.

    The stress is unreal, why does it feel like every step forward is three steps back? Been on this horrendous journey since offered the house first week in January this year... current landlord is pressuring us to let people in the view our current rental, can't he just give us some space until this is sorted out?

    😰



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 blowintothewest


    After 8 weeks of waiting for it mortgage approval rejected because the broker sent it through as single and not a joint application (yet sent two persons details through). So not all the documents have to go through again and another 6 to 8 weeks wait.


    I've never encountered such a frustrating process as buying a house.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Bluefox556


    That is infuriating! I often wonder why can't people just do their job correctly, seems no one double checks or proof reads anything... sorry to hear hope you will not have as long a wait the second time around..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Give it a few years and the AI will taking care of....along with a whole new set of problems :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭Acquiescence


    Drawdown held up over a misspelling on the house insurance schedule that I submitted 6 weeks ago.

    Zero contact from Bank.

    Have received four amended schedules since yesterday and each one is incorrect in different ways.

    Movers booked for Monday.

    Slowly losing mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Home stretch! Just be a pain on the phone! So close to being done!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    EA reached out to previous people who enquired about house even after going sale agreed. (Sale has fallen through) we’ve already a cash offer of the asking price and 2 viewings on Saturday. The cash offer had previously viewed and was at €5k over asking. Calling my bluff? There’s also another house similar to ours he mentioned but it’s the same asking…

    calling our bluff??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Rougies


    You're overthinking everything. Just accept the cash offer and get it done. It's not worth the stress for a few grand more that might or might not happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    .

    Set a price, and when it is reached, make a deal, with best buyer (cash/loan etc)

    Post edited by tonysopprano on

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    I suppose the other bidders are now gone. They do not want to pay more than they need to. I don't think they are looking to call your bluff. Like you could demand they go up the 5k but they could also walk. Houses only get the max price if you have bidders to get people to their max. No buyer wants to go there. The same way you want as much as possible they then want to pay as little as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    We’ve been thinking about the cash bid and have that as an offer going into the viewings of our house tomorrow. We are considering it if nothing comes of the next few viewings and we might be able to negotiate or maybe not, it’s something we’ll probably accept as our last option!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar


    First time buyer here. We went sake agreed on a house just over two months ago now. Our solicitor at the time told us not to get the survey done until she reviewed the deeds.. took the sellers solicitor two months to provide the deeds.

    After finally receiving the go ahead to get the survey, our surveyor has advised the house has water stains on both the ceilings in the kitchen extension and the ceiling of the bedroom.. so two potential roofs to address?

    Surveyor also advised the extension doesn’t appear to have ‘DPC’ / Damp Proof Course in addition to dampness identified at the extension wall / door.

    At this point it looks like we will be pulling out as this house was the top end of our budget and we were assuming / hoping no added costs other than the usuals like solicitors and property tax etc

    Back on the hunt we go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    I think it is slightly unfair you brought a surveyor after 2 whole months!!

    Before you went sale agreed you should make sure you are happy.

    For all we know, you drove the bidding high then you pull out.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Interesting. The advice I was given by my solicitor (and family) was that a survey was to be done immediately. I went sale agreed on my house April 12th 2022. The survey was done about a week later. I don't see any advantage to waiting in this regard as if there are issues, you'll want to pull out as soon as possible. For next time, I'd get the survey done forthwith.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar


    The company I used for surveying, their website has an FAQ and they advise that you get a survey as soon as you go sale agreed.

    So based on the survey website and our solicitor, both resources advised I do it after sale agreed.

    Additionally, there were no other bids when we went sale agreed. We were the only bidders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar


    Yeah I struggled with the solicitors advice to wait, but told myself as I’m paying the solicitor for their advice I’ll take it.

    In future I would definitely do the survey once I go sale agreed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    I see where you are coming from and I agree that wasn't the best advice from a solicitor. 2 months is such a waste of time.

    Since you are the only bidders, maybe best to go to the vendor and ask for a discount based on the survey report.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    The reason I asked is because we hear on boards.ie how all houses in Dublin are swamped with bidders and everyone is bidding like mad which obviously is a lie.

    I have come across couple of houses which are getting no bidders.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭MrsBean


    Would you consider approaching Estate Agent or seller to seek a reduction to sales price in light of the survey results? The next person to go sale agreed and get a survey done will likely have the same issues. You can use that fact to your advantage at this juncture.

    Get yourself a couple of quotes to remedy the issues and seek to have that taken off the sales price. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Our survey report raised some issues, including a leaking kitchen extension roof and we negotiated down. We are happily in situ now and roof is getting repaired this week. If the rest of the house is in good order and the location is what you're after I wouldn't be so quick to walk away. You could always get a small credit union loan for roof repairs if the cost is something manageable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Don't worry about. I listened to bad advice from many people whilst buying.

    I'd be curious to know why your solicitor thought this would be a good idea. All that I can think of is that he/she believed that a poor survey result later in the process could perhaps be used to negotiate a lower price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar


    The logic given by the solicitor was they wanted to review the deeds first and if we got a survey before they viewed the deeds, there would be a possibility that we would need to get a survey again based on the deeds…

    Found it strange still do ha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 iamsonya


    Hi, I have been following the thread for a while. We finally went sale agreed on a property we viewed in February this year. The house came to the market again in September and we were approached by EA as a second higher bidder. EA says previous buyer couldn't afford interest rate hikes and backed out. We were delighted at first but after the survey not sure what to do. 😔


    The house is a semi detached house and went around 100k over asking. (Wasn't priced well by the EA to begin with)


    We did the survey and it highlighted a few pressing issues. I was just wondering if anyone would have more knowledge on the below issue:

    1. Surveyor thinks that the alteration done by removing the living room wall doesn't comply with fire regulation. The stair now exits to living room so surveyor has recommended to get compliance document. I have read building regulation regarding fire safety and it mentions if there is a wall between stair and kitchen and if the main kitchen area is 3m away from stairs it should not be a problem but I am not sure. Moreover, the slope of the stair is 44 degrees and it requires to be 42 to be compliant.

    2. A original owners built a side extension in early 1990s which had planning. The second owner of the property built a conservatory in 2008 without planning. It's around 20sqm. I have read that extension at the back of the house upto 40sqm doesn't require planning but since this house already had 50sqm side extension done, would anyone know if exemption is still available?

    Our solicitor has contacted vendor solicitor for compliance documents but he hasn't received anything formal yet. He thinks we should look into other properties.

    Would anyone know if the bank look at building regulation/fire safety compliance even if these changes to the house were done in 1990s?

    Will this affect home insurance?

    We like the house but are very confused now. Just wondering if anyone has been in similar situation or have any suggestions. Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Having to do a survey again wouldn't be a major financial cost. It would cost a few hundred euro at most, which is nothing considering the sums of money that will be spent on a house. Indeed, if the deeds highlighted an issue (not sure how they would), a full survey would not be needed a second time.

    Strange indeed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    The bank may not like the sound of that. If they don't feel that they will be able sell the house in the event of a foreclosure, they will not want to offer a loan. Indeed, this may be why the previous buyer pulled out rather than the rise in interest rates.

    Personally, unless you really want this house because of the area, I think it's best to look elsewhere.

    Also, this line...

    "The house is a semi detached house and went around 100k over asking. (Wasn't priced well by the EA to begin with)"

    EAs don't do this by accident. Likely, he/she listed it under-value to drive up the eventual sale price by starting a bidding-war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Presume 2nd owner is responsible for issue 1 as well?

    I agree with RichardAnd this is most likely why the previous buyer pulled out rather than the rise in interest rates. Issue 2 should be straight forward enough to get planning retention for this but it is an added cost down the line but Issue 1 will probably sink your mortgage application and restrict the House to cash buyers unless the vendor does the remediation work and re-list the property.



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