F1 2023 thread

on_the_roots · 10-10-2023 09:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121216057#Comment_121216057

What people think is completely irrelevant. The numbers and results are self explanatory. But you are free to choose who you like/hate or not.

I don't think Stroll is an exceptional talent, but he is ok when he is in a good mood. However in the last couple of years he has been pretty bad, that is undeniable.

El_Duderino 09 · 10-10-2023 12:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121217105#Comment_121217105

Yeah but you can use numbers and stats to back up your "love/hate" of a driver to. Stats at very low numbers are not terribly useful. Stroll got a poll once, but it would be a mistake to conclude he's got great potential in qualifying. Likewise comparing his podiums to Hulk is not great because the sample set is small and its seen as a bit of an anomaly that Hulk has never gotten a podium. The stats won't make Hulk look great in hindsight either.

I think, taking the totality of his experience, it's hard to make the case that he's anything but a poor enough driver and he's most likely only still in the sport because he's a special kind of pay driver.

flazio · 10-10-2023 04:19PM

Formula 1 is a stopwatch sport as David Coulthard would say and the stop watch says that Lance hasn't got out of Q1 in quite some time and has been plum last on a couple of occasions. I was listening to Aston Martin ambassador Jessica Hawkins on F1 Nation a couple of hours ago and post Quatar she rose the issue of Max handling the Singapore disappointment badly. Kind of ironic considering how Lance handled the qualifying disappointment.

Lance can be a decent driver when he wants to be but it's the lack of consistency that kills him. It's seems to be down to what side of the bed he got out of that morning.

dulpit · 10-10-2023 08:42PM

Speaking of Stroll...

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1711824313215602917?t=m24A6sg9KLWR68TjpkpCqA&s=19%20

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 10-10-2023 09:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121220495#Comment_121220495

You'd assume it's either how he acted in interviews or the fact he was driving while passed out. Be interesting to see the action taken if it's the latter. I'd suspect they're unhappy with Stroll making the FIA look bad by saying the things he said.

Frank Bullitt · 10-10-2023 09:16PM

Bad weekend in total for Stroll.

I do feel some sympathy for him, at the same time F1 doesn't really reward average performances. He is miles and miles behind Alonso.

AM could give Seb a call, I am sure he would come back.

Burkie1203 · 10-10-2023 09:54PM

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The passed out remark, well then Ocon should be in same boat as he admitted to puking

Burkie1203 · 10-10-2023 10:02PM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/67071961

interesting comment about cooling seats in other formula

muckwarrior · 11-10-2023 02:29PM

Haven't seen Jolyon Palmer mentioned elsewhere. I've found him to be quite good on the Channel 4 commentary. Certainly a massive step up from Billy Monger, who used to do some of the races.

Frank Bullitt · 11-10-2023 04:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121223837#Comment_121223837

He does work for F1 now, he has a video up after each race, I find him super insighful.

muckwarrior · 11-10-2023 05:39PM

Yeah, I've noticed a few times that he seems really on-the-ball in commentary. Often picks up on things the others don't.

Andrew76 · 12-10-2023 10:56AM

Bernie back in the news - pleaded guilty to fraud after failing to declare some £400m trust in Singapore. Presumably he's not going to see the inside of a prison though. 92 years of age and still going.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67088503

El_Duderino 09 · 12-10-2023 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121227288#Comment_121227288

The good die young...

I saw a headline that the bauld William Storey is creating headlines about himself buying Reading football club. Not linking as I don't want to give it clicks. Needless to say it's a made up Storey by William Fairytale

Andrew76 · 12-10-2023 12:26PM

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I had to Google William Storey, ah... now I remember that lad and Rich Energy. Do they actually make/sell drinks? Never heard of that brand name outside of the farce involvement with F1.

El_Duderino 09 · 12-10-2023 02:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121227746#Comment_121227746

Yeah they sold some drinks. You could buy it online and it was in a casino near me as a vodka mixer. I don't think it was ever a serious drink selling business. The product was an inconvenient part of getting Storey to sports teams he could sponsor. Maybe the plan was a Ponzi scheme or maybe he just loves publicity. Hard to know.

Frank Bullitt · 12-10-2023 04:46PM

There are rumours swirling on Reddit (a very large pinch of salt now) that Perez will announce his retirement at the Mexican GP.

dulpit · 13-10-2023 10:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121229196#Comment_121229196

Saw that alright, can't imagine it's true at all.

On a different note, Spa confirmed for the 2025 season (another 1 year extension).

Hijpo · 13-10-2023 11:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121231321#Comment_121231321

Sources close to Perez have rubbished the rumours

dulpit · 13-10-2023 12:16PM

Red Bull be stirring with this post...

https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1712764032959074790?t=IuQ9lcK_MHHNtg3lsG-hSg&s=19

PsychoPete · 13-10-2023 01:34PM

Checo retiring would save him the embarrassment of getting sacked by RB and not having a drive for 2024 but don't see him retiring yet. He just doesn't seem to be able to turn his form around, really needs to have a good end to the season and finish 2nd in the championship

AMKC · 13-10-2023 03:29PM

Ever wanted to see an F1 car drive upside-down like it has been claimed for decades is possible? Well it looks like we might just get that chance sooner rather than later,

https://youtu.be/8FI0VYx7JHs?si=Br80Sxo1bmiBENxB

Frank Bullitt · 13-10-2023 05:01PM

The other rumour is that if Checo doesn't get P2 in the championship, Ricciardo is in...

oceanman · 13-10-2023 05:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121232274#Comment_121232274

i just cant get my head around what has gone wrong for him....he started the season off well, seemed very comfortable with the car, and then just fell off a cliff! strange.

Hijpo · 13-10-2023 05:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233384#Comment_121233384

Yeah, like whatever about losing the car and ending up I the gravel thats just bad driving but the desperate lunges like Japan are a bit off the wall and seemed very unnecessary. That car should be more than capable of finishing 4th or 5th in any race in anyones hands, look at merc all season, all they need to do is stay in a race and the default is 4th or 5th.

AMKC · 13-10-2023 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233469#Comment_121233469

Never mind 4th or 5th it should be more than capable of finishing 2nd or 3rd in a good drivers hands most times and even 1st the very rare time that Max does not.

Frank Bullitt · 13-10-2023 06:52PM

It genuinely seems like he just can't handle how sharp the front end of the car is. There was a quote from Albon where he talked about his time at RB, he basically said Max could drive a borderline unstable car like a bus due to his style (which has just gotten better and better).

Checo like the opposite style to Max, and the RB has evolved towards being front focused, so unfortunately Checo just has zero confidence in the car.

Jordan 199 · 13-10-2023 07:46PM

Triple header coming up.

US: 22nd of October.

Mexico City: 29th of October.

Brazil: 5th of November.

US and Brazil will be sprint races.

mickdw · 13-10-2023 07:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233814#Comment_121233814

Schumacher was the same. Wanted the car on the nose and was able to live with what the rear did.

PsychoPete · 13-10-2023 09:01PM

Checos lunge on Albon in Singapore and especially Kmag in Japan were crazy decisions to make. He doesn't even seem to be able to get the pace out of car when he's coming through the field. He'll spend 5 or 6 laps battling to pass a Haas,Williams, alfa etc. Max will drive the wheels off any car you give him but Checo seems like he needs the car suited to him

Frank Bullitt · 13-10-2023 09:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234040#Comment_121234040

Max really reminds me of Schumacher and Senna in that regard. Schumacher could do crazy things with the front of his Ferrari and somehow still rotated the car at the apex and had monster exits. His old onboards were amazing to watch.

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