M28 - Cork to Ringaskiddy [advance works pending; 2024 start]

AugustusMinimus · 03-09-2023 8:37am

An enlarged dumbbell with only access towards the city. Disappointing to say the least given the level of development we keep seeing in Carrigaline.

Hibernicis · 03-09-2023 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062343#Comment_121062343

Fair point, given the amount of commuter traffic between Carrigaline to Ringaskiddy. Only compensation is that that traffic will continue use the current N28 (presumably downgraded to a R road) which is not a bad stretch of road, and which will carry a lot less traffic.

AugustusMinimus · 03-09-2023 5:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063887#Comment_121063887

My thoughts are more about junction throughput. Almost all Carrigaline traffic will go through this one junction. I think rush hours will see queues in all directions.

Limerick74 · 03-09-2023 10:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121054516#Comment_121054516

PIN notice was published in June https://www.etenders.gov.ie/epps/notices/viewPublishedContractNotice.do?resourceId=14635&documentId=1962507&noticeType=1&lang=en&noticeId=1962504

marno21 · 04-09-2023 3:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065686#Comment_121065686

Great news thank you for that. Fingers crossed we are still on for the original timeline in that case.

Pete_Cavan · 04-09-2023 5:51am

From that doc;

II.1.4) Short description: M28 Cork to Ringaskiddy Project will consist of the construction of 10.9km of dual carriageway motorway from the N40 Bloomfield Interchange to Barnahely and 1.5km of single carriageway protected road from Barnahely to the eastern side of Ringaskiddy including all ancillary and consequential works.

And

II.2.4) Description of the procurement:

...

It is envisaged to have the construction contract awarded for the 10.9km section in 2024, subject to Approvals required Looks like the SC won't be part of that contract.

Looks lke the final 1.5km isn't included in that contract, the SC must be a separate contract.

Hibernicis · 04-09-2023 8:16am

Most positive news we have seen for a while. The MSA and the last section (single carriageway protected road) are being split out. No timeline for the former, the latter to go to tender in the coming months, and the motorway as a single contract later, with that contract award in 2024 subject to the necessary approvals (PSC Gate 3 approval)

The Proposed M28 Project:

The proposed M28 Project will consist of the construction of 10.9km of dual carriageway motorway from the N40 Bloomfield Interchange to Barnahely and 1.5km of single carriageway protected road from Barnahely to the eastern side of Ringaskiddy including all ancillary and consequential works. Planning permission for the M28 Project included a Motorway Service Area at the Port of Cork lands in Ringaskiddy but it is not proposed to include this element of construction in the main road development.

The scheme is to be delivered in a number of contracts, some of which are enabling and advance works already underway, in an effort to de-risk the scheme. Construction of the roadworks will be delivered in two contracts, one of which is the last 1.5km from Barnahely to Ringaskiddy and it is the intention of the Contracting Authority that this section will go to tender in the coming months.

And

This document is for information purposes only and to inform the industry that it is expected that the tender process for the M28 Cork to Ringaskiddy Project, commencing with a prequalification stage, will begin in 2023 and it is hoped to commence this in the coming months It is envisaged to have the construction contract awarded for the 10.9km section in 2024, subject to Approvals required.

Cookiemunster · 04-09-2023 8:58am

So not a post 2030 opening then 😉

Chris_5339762 · 04-09-2023 12:13pm

Excellent news. The 1.5km SC section is simple and easy so it makes sense to tender it seperately, even though its probably a very small amount of the scheme cost overall.

_Kaiser_ · 05-09-2023 4:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062323#Comment_121062323

That looks as short-sighted as not completing the slips on the M9-M7 or the M8-M7 - especially given the growth in Carrigaline and the port itself when it finally opens.

Just do it right the first time.

DylanQuestion · 06-09-2023 7:44pm

Tree felling alongside Maryborough Ridge has started. The lone tree left so far

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DylanQuestion · 07-09-2023 3:15pm

Well, it's gone now. They've also started the wall

spacetweek · 08-09-2023 9:14pm

Their "pre-construction" is pretty thorough. Some elements of the final project are actually fully under construction now!

Norteño · 09-09-2023 1:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087193#Comment_121087193

Is that the like of bridges etc?

kub · 09-09-2023 11:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121087193#Comment_121087193

Absolutely it is thorough, I imagine a delay due to find like this could be expensive both on time and money for the contractors;

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/neolithic-house-discovered-motorway-cork

KrisW1001 · 10-09-2023 11:12am

No, no delays. These days, the archaeological digs are a just another scheduled task in the project. The teams get their time to dig, photograph and catalogue everything, remove anything that they feel needs to be kept, and then when their time is up, the construction begins, on its scheduled time. If there's something big, an extension is possible, but that just means the main project manager starts construction on a different part of the project - no different to if a contractor can't deliver specialised plant on time or any of the many other reasons why delays happen on big jobs.

It would have to be something of national importance to properly delay a project - something of the scale of a bronze-age royal burial, but those things are big enough to be seen from the air, and we have a very detailed catalogue of potential sites of archaeological value, and that catalogue is consulted during route selection.

kub · 23-09-2023 9:47am

A completion date of 2030, interesting bit here :

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2023/0923/1406858-m28-motorway/

Cookiemunster · 23-09-2023 12:32pm

If it goes to construction in early 2025, as stated in the article, it will be open by late 2027/early 2028. It's a 30-36 month build schedule. It won't take 5 years.

Hibernicis · 23-09-2023 1:09pm

@Cookiemunster

Best guess is ... a 2024 start

@Cookiemunster

I never actually said it would go to construction in 2024.

You certainly have all your bases covered anyway🤭

I'm more than happy to stick with 2030 for completion. So apparently are TII and Cork County Council.

Pete_Cavan · 23-09-2023 1:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146408#Comment_121146408

Would it even take that long, it's only 10.9km of motorway?

DoubleJoe7 · 23-09-2023 1:52pm

All talk of "keeping disruption to a minimum" focussed on traffic management and not a word for people living along the route who've had to put up with works going on late into the night. At least two occasions we've had heavy machinery operating outside our bedroom windows after 11pm on week nights and emails of complaints have gone ignored.

mcburns07 · 23-09-2023 2:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146693#Comment_121146693

Suck it up, it’s for a limited time and for the benefit of the public. We’re such a country of whiners and NIMBYs.

DoubleJoe7 · 23-09-2023 2:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146721#Comment_121146721

Yeah I'll tell my small kids who can't sleep to suck it up, cheers.

prunudo · 23-09-2023 3:11pm

As a kid I would have been delighted to see machinery working outside my bedroom window.

Pete_Cavan · 23-09-2023 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146949#Comment_121146949

And your parents would have been battering ya back into the bed, which I'm sure is his point.

Cookiemunster · 23-09-2023 5:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146536#Comment_121146536

What on earth are you on about? What bases do I have covered? Neither quoted post has me saying that it will start in 2024. You do know what best guess means right?

Also the article states an early 2025 construction start is expected. If thats true it won't take 5 years to build.

You've chosen a very odd hill to die on.

DylanQuestion · 23-09-2023 5:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121051462#Comment_121051462

Yeah, it isn’t proceeding. The gap between the new wall and the old wall is being filled in. There is a planning permission with the City Council to build a house in between the new slip road and the existing house, so I wonder if we’ll get anymore detail from those planning reports

spacetweek · 23-09-2023 9:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121145994#Comment_121145994

Start date stated in Mattie McGrath's Prospects 2023 doc to be end 2024 (and finish 2028!), stated as early 2025 in the RTE article. I gotta say, 2025-2030 build time is implausibly long unless they are intentionally stretching this one out, or there is messy traffic management involved. But Dunkettle was messy too and will only be a 3 1/4-year build when done.

However I'd put the project manager's timeline before Mattie's.

KrisW1001 · 23-09-2023 10:32pm

Dunkettle had a re-tendering and a pandemic to deal with too.. this scheme will be mostly offline. Three years should do it.

(The online upgrade of the Ringaskiddy access road seems to have been spun off as a separate project, and will probably run in parallel)

Cookiemunster · 24-09-2023 2:05am

The timeline on the official site is 30-36 months. I didn't pluck that figure out of the air.

M28 - Cork to Ringaskiddy [advance works pending; 2024 start]

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