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Wheel of Time (Amazon)

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    #572
    Grassey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    I saw season 3 will be based on book 4 (shadow rising).

    That still leaves another 10 books to get through... So at least 8 more season? More?

    Whatever its flaws I'd prefer if it wasn't cancelled midway and they do complete the story... That'd be far worse *tugs braid*



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    #573
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,956 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119375125#Comment_119375125

    Unless it's a smash hit I've generally presumed ratings for boilerplate telly is expected to taper slowly, ala film series; interest slowly dying off.

    Amazon seem to lack that hit of the Stranger Things or Bridgerton tier; maybe The Boys is their biggest star, Mrs Maisel perhaps? Who knows where Wheel of Time fits into their metrics but midtier High Fantasy has always had a resting audience, albeit shallow enough.



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    #574
    OwaynOTT
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    I think season 1 was poor even if you just look at it as an original IP and not as adaptation of a series of books.



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    #575
    Ave Sodalis
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    What I never really understood about adaptions is why they try to change source material so much. Now, don't get me wrong, I completely understand the need for change when it comes to things that don't translate well on screen, or things that went on way too long in the book. I get why they did the whole Perrin/wife thing, for example and I know translating the waffly writing of RJ into something that can be watched is not an easy task. But to change fundamental parts of the book has never worked out.

    Let's take a few of the most successful book to screen fantasy adaptions; LOTR, HP, GoT. They did extremely well because they made the books come alive. They took what was in the books and made nearly the exact sense the books gave the readers for the tv/film watchers. There was no trying to put their own spin on it (bar end of GoT), there was no trying to cut major corners or make it something it's not. There was a recognition that it is going to be the book fans that make it a success or flop, that the books are the reason there is even a demand for a screen adaption in the first place.

    I didn't hate Amazon's WoT. It was meh. And being "meh" is nearly worse than being bad. At least if it was horrendous, we might have gotten another go at it at another time. Being "okay" means it will just get forgotten about and fade into nothing, with no hope of revival because it was already done, despite the potential for it to be huge.



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    #576
    human 19
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118446173#Comment_118446173

    Another disappointing aspect which may have been mentioned already (apologies, if so) is that 2 of the most enjoyable/joyous characters from the books have been introduced so far (Mat and Min). In the books , the Mat chapters were always a joy to read and provided some great comic interludes. In the show he is much more hard-bitten & cynical and feels more like a character from Eastenders. While its early days for Min in the show , she seems to have started on the same arc. I feel they have missed out on introducing some Merry&Pippin-type mischievous characters to lighten the tone of the show.



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    #577
    Brief_Lives
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    any updates on the next season?



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    #578
    Mitch Connor
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    I love the books - finished a reread/listen of them recently, but couldn't even bring myself to watch the last episode of season one.

    i'lll wait til there are reviews of season 2 out before I think about going back to i. Have read their plans for season 1 go messed up with the pandemic, and they plan to 'fix' a lot of things starting with season 2... but i have no trust in them to not just go off even further in their own direction.



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    #579
    [Deleted User]
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    Did Barney Harris get the boot for refusing to get vaccinated, for COVID?



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    #580
    VinLieger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119708226#Comment_119708226

    That seems to be the consensus out there



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    #581
    FortuneChip
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    Shame, felt he was one of the better portrayals within the show (considerably stronger than the other lads anyway)

    Felt they did his arc a bit dirty in season one, it was like they wrote him off before they even finished the season. It was just odd.



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    #582
    Mitch Connor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119708662#Comment_119708662

    Cause that is what happened. Covid and him not returning forced them (apparently) to rewrite the end of the season.



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    #583
    pixelburp
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    First trailer, bolted onto the end of a season 1 recap;

    https://youtu.be/ua4SU8oKjx8




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    #584
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    I'm not getting hyped for this again.

    No way they've improved, even if I feel this has a better chance of pivoting than Rings Of Power



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    #585
    kerplun k
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119708226#Comment_119708226

    I think I read somewhere that it was related to him being uncomfortable doing intimate love scenes planned for his character.



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    #586
    Mitch Connor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119719411#Comment_119719411

    Maybe the rather problematic 'relationship' he gets into, and the girls give out to him over and laugh at him about....



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    #587
    Grassey
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    Maybe he just doesn't like pink



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    #588
    [Deleted User]
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    Or lace



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    #589
    JP Liz V1
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    Keith Duffy's son Jay has joined

    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #590
    pixelburp
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    The first trailer for Season 2 has arrived;

    https://youtu.be/W-1OT1jxuQo




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    #591
    VinLieger
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    Seanchan are arriving as well as the Aiel two very different and distinct groups and which will be interesting to see how they are depicted vs the books.

    I think my main issue with the show and something ive always questioned about any potential discussion of it prior to it being made is how they can get anywhere close to doing it justice without cutting huge amounts of source material and potentially still failing halfway through the story they tell due to it simply getting canceled.



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    #592
    Slydice
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    Oh I'm definitely going to do a recap video when starting into season 2. Memory isn't completely gone on this but is hazy.



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    #593
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    Is season two off to any better shakes?


    It's crazy, there was so much hype for this and season 2 arrives with zero fanfare



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    #594
    Pawwed Rig
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062017#Comment_121062017

    Most stopped watching I would assume



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    #595
    highgiant1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062021#Comment_121062021

    I watched the first epside of season 2 there tonight. I love the books but the series just isn't living up to it tbh. I'll keep watching it but it just falls flat for me compared to what I was hoping for it to be.



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    #596
    OwaynOTT
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    Picks up a good bit in episode 2.


    If you haven’t read the books, you could watch the show and not get spoiled for anything in the books at this stage.



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    #597
    sydthebeat
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    At least there was action.

    Night time, very, very dark action, but apparently there was a bit of fighting there.

    I find the story very hard to keep up with and the editing is a bit all over then place.

    The recap at the start just emphasised how much of a clusterfcuk it is.

    Hopefully season ones mess was down to world and character building and season two can be most plot driven



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    #598
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062464#Comment_121062464

    It looks that way. Some serious deviations from the books, but by episode three they started to make sense (still not sold on Moraine's situation mind you). It's a significant improvement from season 1 though.

    New Mat is way more in line with Mat from the books, imo, he's great.



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    #599
    Brief_Lives
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    Mat looks to be an improvement alright.

    I thought Nynaeve's test was downe quite well, but the introduction of the Seanchan army was fairly pathetic. a handful of villagers... what was the point.



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    #600
    Dany Hitch
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    Just finished watching S02E01 and it's worth continuing with it. Agree with previous comments here about deviation from the books but it is improving. The pace has picked up, bit more explanation of the world of WoT too which might help those who haven't read the books. Use of lighting is quite good (opening "meeting" scene is decent), individual story arcs are beginning to strengthen although the pacing still clunks in places. Looking forward to watching S02E02 this evening and hopefully there'll be more of Irish Mat!



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    #601
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    Between this, The Witcher, and Rings of Power pissing over source material and attacking core fans, after using said fans to drum up anticipation, I'll wait for the entire 2nd season to air and go from there.



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