RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

prunudo · 03-09-2023 08:18AM

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/pat-kenny-on-ryan-tubridy-they-ruined-him-they-ruined-his-reputation/a577734675.html?fbclid=IwAR2mNCEw_f7gK-kX5G52aHAQrNRfPoZOZ77gRpdDi4PQbVaejgttt1MeUcw&utm_campaign=seeding&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Looks likes its being teed up for RT to go to Newstalk with the view to take over PK show when he retires.

Is PK from the NK stable too or like FS in the indo being nice to their rumoured new colleague.

ButtersSuki · 03-09-2023 08:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062412#Comment_121062412

PK is in the NKM stable, yes.

HildaOgdenx · 03-09-2023 08:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062100#Comment_121062100

I will never understand the appeal of that programme, or indeed anything he ever did. And it's so popular in the U.K. which puzzles me further.

As regards Pat Kenny, I have been surprised at his defence of Tubridy from the start. Is this a lot of very deep-seated bitterness on his part, towards RTE, that is now emerging, I wonder?

machiavellianme · 03-09-2023 08:29AM

Another day, another pointless statement of support for RT splashed all over the front pages. Have these people no clue? The vast majority are happy that Ryan is gone and don't particularly care how he was treated given how he treated the vast majority. The likes of Pat Kenny et al should know better.

When will this ridiculous PR campaign end? I'm sick of it and don't need daily updates from z list celebrities. Surely there's better news out there than these puff pieces?

Higgins5473 · 03-09-2023 08:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062412#Comment_121062412

Talk about conflicting messages from Ryan’s PR machine/Irish independent, is he not in high demand with “eye watering” offers? Doesn’t sound like someone with a ruined reputation……or he’s had absolutely f*ck all in terms of offers which I strongly suspect is the case, not because of a ruined reputation but because he truly is a talentless, mundane useless presenter completely out of touch with reality and has been living on the crest of an Irish nepotistic wave for a few decades.

Someone really needs to tell Pat, every single bit of his supposed ruination was due to Tubridys own shambolic handling of this.

Lillyfae · 03-09-2023 08:39AM

It’s a way for Brexit voters to feel superior @HildaOgdenx

03-09-2023 08:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062353#Comment_121062353

When does NK realise it is the law of diminishing returns. Does he increase his percentage the lower the salary achieved and/or the amount of effort taken?

A lot of work has been done, PR expenses to be paid, and favours called in, for what? 15% of €175,000. At the moment it looks like a percentage of zero!

ShamNNspace · 03-09-2023 08:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062342#Comment_121062342

If stuffing my pockets and bank accounts for years with wads of cash for something I genuinely have no talent for is "ruining" me, then Ruin me baby and Ruin me good I ain't proud 😉

tom23 · 03-09-2023 09:06AM

Jesus - the indo again. Are they on a retainer or something? I don’t get this…

03-09-2023 09:08AM

"Ruined" is a word the older generation use to talk about a spoilt child.

John's parents have ruined him, always giving him what he wants.

bigroad · 03-09-2023 09:20AM

That Indo is a rag ,people should pay no attention to it.

It has the same old faces on it ,day in day out.

Z list celebs, talentless fools being promoted because of their connections.

Doc07 · 03-09-2023 09:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062412#Comment_121062412

Correct he is and don’t mistake this for an actual article written by an actual journalist. This is essentially an ad/press release from an agency

ButtersSuki · 03-09-2023 10:17AM

I wonder will Brendan O’Connor discuss PK’s comments on the paper review this morning? I would suspect not as he’s largely avoided this particular story, even though it’s been front page news all summer.

RoTelly · 03-09-2023 10:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121058671#Comment_121058671

Ryan and Dermo's Mental Health Hour !

Beechwoodspark · 03-09-2023 10:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062532#Comment_121062532

setting things up for Tubridy to join them as a “star signing” columnist?

Big multi page “tell all” interview with Barry Egan and Niamh Horan.

“Raw, authentic - a side to Ryan we Havn’t seen before”.

accompanied by a photo session of RT dressed up the the 9s sauntering around south Dublin with a teddy's 99.

ShamNNspace · 03-09-2023 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062722#Comment_121062722

Ah now it is Brendan - we must be careful-o Connor you're talking about there

yagan · 03-09-2023 11:01AM

I remember PK in the 90s fighting to keep private how much we the public were paying him. All he's defending is the mismatch between talent and pay.

The generations who still buy the indo probably mostly pay their license, but the pyramid of pompous rte salaries is crumbling away like a sand castle as the tide of internet users make tv programming look more like an exhibit at a "how we used to live" museum.

yagan · 03-09-2023 11:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062780#Comment_121062780

Don't forget his new JFK book, with 50% off if you buy the new Joe Duffy book about the forgotten pets of the rising.

odyssey06 · 03-09-2023 11:11AM

Sunday Indo poll has 57 percent agree RTE right not to bring Tubridy back versus 32 percent disagree.

Confidence in Bakhurst to reform RTE: 42 percent agree v 38 percent disagree.

pleasant Co. · 03-09-2023 11:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062780#Comment_121062780

Isn't "the big podcast" (what-the-fcuk-ever that means, pre-launch, pre-audience build-up) supposed to be sponsored by some media outlet?

ButtersSuki · 03-09-2023 11:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062891#Comment_121062891

So they're even going against their own readers (I'm not one btw) by continuing to publish this tripe on a daily basis? Not really a sound business model for a newspaper (a dying industry in itself).

head82 · 03-09-2023 11:28AM

The lack of support for Tubridy from his RTE colleagues and NKM stablemates is deafening in it's silence. You'd think Noel Kelly could convince at least one of his other 'talent' to come out batting for Tubs. Pat Kenny doesn't really count. Claiming RTE "ruined" him is not exactly glowing support but also inaccurate as he would have been back in his original radio slot tomorrow if he hadn't shot himself in both feet with his ill judged/timed comments.

Dave Fanning and his smarmy Tweet.. or whatever it was.. comparing the PAC hearings to the Nuremberg trials.. and later apologising for it.. was spineless.

It seems the best Tubridy/Noel Kelly can come up with are the likes of John Brennan and Brendan O' Carroll! ( Brendan O' Carroll.. SWEET JESUS!.. just when I thought that man couldn't get any lower in my estimation (I'm referring to B O' C here and not Jesus. Jesus is cool!)).

When you compare and contrast to the fairly recent Gary Lineker controversy when practically the entire BBC sports department shut down in protest against Linekers suspension, well.. there is no comparison.

yagan · 03-09-2023 11:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062912#Comment_121062912

They're wedded to the preinternet tribe who can only internalise information if it's printed.

I've an elderly aunt who reads news from her phone but she won't believe it until she sees it in the indo.

ButtersSuki · 03-09-2023 11:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062780#Comment_121062780

I honestly never thought I'd see a worse "journalist" (I'm loathe to call him that btw) than Barry Egan in my time on this planet but fair play to the Indo in unearthing Niamh Horan to challenge his title....that took some doing but they've managed it.

Whenever I think of Egan, I think of two things:

The time I saw him at an Ireland England Rugby Match in Croke Park when tickets were nigh on impossible to get, and this chancer had one.
This article...https://www.dailyedge.ie/barry-egan-loves-young-dream-3107014-Jan2017/

Oscar_Madison · 03-09-2023 11:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062342#Comment_121062342

Can’t read it as behind paywall but I think it mentions he says Ryan should go abroad - I think that’s the main sentiment of this thread too - there’s no real “home” for RT’s “talents”on this island.

Someone mentioned above RT taking over from PK? I think highly unlikely as Ryan just doesn’t have the experience of doing current affairs - he’s just not credible.

tom23 · 03-09-2023 12:13PM

Egan finest moment was posing with the z list celebrities and who the feck are you on the front cover of a sindo mag.

Personified in a heartbeat all that’s wrong with this country. The Friend to the stars is as delusional as the stars he thinks he is friends with.

RoTelly · 03-09-2023 12:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062426#Comment_121062426

Did he not mention that NKM was only involved in his move to Newstalk, I though this was a strange statement at the time.

ButtersSuki · 03-09-2023 12:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063115#Comment_121063115

As far as I know, he's been his agent for longer than that, but I admit I could be wrong. Either way, he's a vested party to this and has a massive conflict of interest in this story and as one of our most esteemed broadcasters he should know better than to be weighing in like he has on this. I guess it's ego really, and the reality that "they" will have to fight to keep the status quo.

03-09-2023 12:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062430#Comment_121062430

Yes. Gerry Ryan had a show around 1991 called Secrets on prime Saturday evening RTE 1. It mostly involved smashing plates, putting people in the 'gunge box' and lots of shouting. Pure rubbish.

Then in the mid 90s it was succeeded by Brendan O'Carroll's toilet humour programme Hot Milk n Pepper. A more adult version of Pat Ingloldsby's Pat's Chat.

This theme of the lowest form of entertainment was continued into the 2010s with the Ray D'Arcy Show. It was full of silly little games for prizes. Usually kicking or throwing things. Again 'entertainment' at the prime Saturday post the 9pm news.

I agree re. Kenny. He's too invested in the Tubridy saga not to be bringing his own feelings into it. In my opinion all the LLS hosts had ego issues, along with other presenters. Gay Byrne was full of self importance, thought he couldn't be done without. He considered himself a Mount Rushmore figure in RTE. Kenny really fancies himself and has a nasty streak. Tubridy, enough said.

The more likeable RTE presenters were/are Derek Davis, a nice man. Brendan O'Connor has a genuine side I feel. Daithi O'Se would be ok too. John Creedon, Bibi was a nice lady. John Bowman, a pro, quiet life outside his work etc.

CollyFlower · 03-09-2023 01:04PM

It seems NK is PK agent and friend, part of the interview with Neimh Horan below....

"NH: What about Noel Kelly?

PK: He’s a friend as well as agent.

NH: How often do you talk?

PK: When there is business to be done. I would have the odd lunch with him to bring me up to speed.

NH: A lot of people have spoken about his negotiating style. What’s it like?

PK: I don’t see him in action, but I suspect he is tough. Because he doesn’t have to be liked. And he will say that — he’ll be as tough as he has to be.

In my time in RTÉ, you’d go in and try to make a case for yourself and you’d be put down. They would tell me “you’re always replaceable”. That attitude prevailed among some management. So that’s why we need an agent. And also, you don’t have to blow your own trumpet. It sounds immodest and bumptious if you go in saying: “I’m terrific.” You can’t do it.

So when people ask, “Why do you have an agent?” — that’s why.

There was a famous senior executive in RTÉ who remarked about Gerry Ryan, when Gerry was looking for a better contract, that he could go over to UCD, across the road in Belfield, to the L&H Society and pick up “half-a-dozen Gerry Ryans”.

Then Gerry Ryan died tragically — and they can’t replace Gerry Ryan.

______

PK: He has somehow got to resolve everything with RTÉ — whether that is in the High Court or behind closed doors in Montrose. I don’t think he can truly move on until that is resolved.

NH: Is there a possibility he will sue?

PK: You need big money to sue. And it’s a risky business because, initially, the barristers will tell you you’ve got a 99pc chance of winning. Then as the case looms closer, it becomes 70pc, then 50pc and then “it depends on the judge”.

NH: Who would have more to lose in court, RTÉ or Ryan?

PK: RTÉ would die rather than go to court. Because we have probably only seen the tip of the iceberg. There are other issues. All the contracted people that should have been on staff. There are the severance packages for highly paid executives. You bring all that out in the wash in the High Court, and whatever about lost licence fee revenue now, you can multiply that.

NH: Would you go in the box for him [Tubridy]?

PK: If I was asked by any party, I would go into the box and tell the truth. Whatever I was asked by either side, I would tell it as I saw it."

RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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