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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt



    A Russian telegram channel I follow showing off the Russians using this artillery piece from the 50's. While it would still offer good suppressing fire in an area there's no doubt it wouldn't be as effective as what the Russians used to use and the range is probably far less. It's a good trend and long may it continue. Here's to next summer when Russia starts using artillery that seen action in WW2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭Rawr


    They might give up most of Crimea in a situation like that, but I wonder if they’d try to mimic the Soviets and try to barracade themselves into Sevastopol.

    This port is ultimately what Russia wants on the peninsula. However, I don’t fancy their chances maintaining a defence of the city this time if Ukraine block them into a siege.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    The irony of Russia losing Crimea through bloody bloody war considering they took it and held it for nearly a decade without firing a single shot 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    There's idiots like that here too. While walking past the Chinese embassy yesterday, I encountered a lovely gent proudly wearing a "Fuçk the Ukraine" t-shirt (the c was a Russian sickle) and berating the Falun Gong protestors (presumably for their backward swastika logo or some other such nonsense). I alerted the Garda up the street at the UK embassy in the hope they'd remove this stellar specimen from society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Remove them from society? Don't you mean remove them from the embassy?

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    Oh, here we go again - the kind of society I want to live in doesn't include people like the one mentioned. Now, I'd rather this example of backwards evolution sees the error of his ways at some point and re-joins civilisation, but until then he can feck right off and keep going.

    Civilisation and polite society has rules, some written, some implied (you might even call the implied rules 'manners'). These are the grease that keep the wheels spinning smoothly and allow large groups of people to more or less get along.

    If you want to be in the game, you have to abide by the rules. If you don't like the rules you can either try to get all the players to agree to changing them, or go and find another game whose rules suit you.

    Don't start your twattery about 'the poor, ordinary Russians' - if they live in Russia and are not doing anything to better their situation, they reap what they sow, and if they don't live in Russia, they don't have the right to tell everyone else how to live.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Nope, lock him up and ship him home at the earliest opportunity. We don't need his type of input here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 anonymouscactus



    Had he committed a crime? Personally, the Russian supporter sounds like a sad sack, as do the Falun Gong crowd. What are they hoping to achieve in Dublin? Theatrical twits.

    I assume he had committed a crime, right? Because if he didn't commit a crime, here you are, without a hint of irony or self-awareness, beating your chest for demonstrating that you would have thrived in East Germany or some other Soviet state as an apparatchik or informant.

    In Ireland we have a culture that allows people (and sad sacks) to protest and counter protest without informants running off to the police about it. I will assume he committed a crime though, because no one could be so oblivious to Western values while at the same time claiming to defend them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Nigh on four months of Ukraine's "counter offensive" and no significant progress whatsoever (a few fields and literally a couple of villages) ☹️ The Russians remain comfortably dug in to their new territories with no sign of them attempting any sort of breakout of their own despite having amassed a huge force in Kharkiv.

    I maintain the partition now looks more or less like how the conflict will end after the negotiations, minor Ukranian gains here and there aside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 anonymouscactus


    They have made progress in recent weeks though, regaining territory, breaking first lines of defense in several directions, striking targets deep inside Russia. It's not spectacular, but it's progress by any metric, and they are not done yet. In other words, the current lines are not and will not be the final lines when it comes to any deal, IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    From the Guardian feed:

    "A new Russian high school text book has sought to justify its war of aggression in Ukraine, as students returned to classes following the summer break.

    The New York Times reports that a revised textbook alleges that Ukraine is an “ultranationalist state” where “opposition is forbidden,” and that the US is “the main beneficiary of the Ukrainian conflict.”

    The rewritten version of “The History of Russia, 1945 to the beginning of the 21st Century,” a textbook for 16- and 17-year-old students, devotes almost 30 pages to the war. The NYT said the authors framed it as a response to “an increasingly aggressive West” that wanted to use Ukraine as a “battering ram” to destroy Russia."

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    Interesting and telling how close this is to the views of Daly, Wallace and all of that brigade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    It took a long time to navigate the Russian minefield and their entrenched positions. It seems some of these have now been overcome and steady progress has been seen over the past three days.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It was forecast before the counter offensive began that lines would start moving quick enough once all Ukraine's accumulated armour had come into play. However, it turned out that this prediction was inaccurate once you factored in the extensive minefields Russia had laid, plus Ukraine's lack of air support.

    In spite of this, the AFU have managed to carve out a significant wedge in Russia's front line and are working to open a gap in Russia's first main line of defence.

    As someone else mentioned, each KM that Ukraine manages to take will narrow the east/west supply route that runs along the land corridor Russia has established. If Ukraine manages to get far enough down the Tokmak/Melitopol route so that this whole supply corridor is within the range of Ukr guns, along with increasing antagonisation of the Kerch Bridge, it gives Russia a real migraine headache.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Important to note. A video recording of Russian atrocities.

    Also important to note how the Russian state operates and impresses its people to work as a horde to colonise new land.

    Also important to note how the new colonisers don't need to know the former civilians history and culture as they will destroy it and make their own version.

    RuSSia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Funnily enough, he had, per the Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022. You can't wear any old slogan on a t-shirt these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You really shudder to think what's been going on in all of the towns that Russia has been officially occupying since Feb 2022. It is clear that the Russian government has a contempt of Ukrainian culture and identity quite similar to what the Nazis had of Slavic peoples, if not the same.

    For people still talking about negotiation, what is a suitable reparation for Russia to pay regarding the focused ethnic cleansing they have been perpetrating?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Carentan was just a village. The entirety of the Allied advance across Normandy was slow, piecemeal and involved almost excruciating pace clearing tiny hamlets. There's more to the offensive than KMs gained - as has been routinely outlined here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Their latest propaganda film has flopped

    (from the Guardian feed:)

    "The release of Russia’s first feature-length film about its invasion of Ukraine that premiered across the country on 17 August comes on the back of plans announced by the Russian authorities to boost the production of movies glorifying Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.

    But The Witness is a box-office flop. Set to a budget of 200 million roubles (£1.5m), it has grossed less than 14 million roubles (£110,000) in its first two weeks, with viewers across the country reporting empty cinema halls.

    In two hours of screen time, the film covers a wide spectrum of falsehoods that the Kremlin has used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. On the eve of the invasion, Vladimir Putin said Moscow had to “denazify” its neighbour, the lie that Ukraine was infiltrated by dangerous “Nazis”.

    At one point, a Ukrainian commander is seen walking around with a copy of Mein Kampf, while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler. As a witness to these unspeakable horrors, Cohen sets out to tell the world the “truth” about the conflict."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Putin: "That Ukraine is full of Nazis. Send in all my men. All my best men. Especially those guys named after Hitler's favourite composer for some reason."



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    But who is going to be starting the discussion?


    Ukraine are not going to say enough is enough, and let's see if we can call a ceasefire and get a line drawn here. Whilst they still have any will they will continue to keep fighting to regain their land. They have to keep fighting or they cease to exist.


    Russia are not fighting for their survival though. Once they run out of cash they might decide to talk, but then the starting point is from 2014, and from there it moves backwards with potential demilitarisation for X miles back into Russia.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler.

    Gilding the lily there a tad, Vlad. I wonder if the editors managed to talk him back from a scene of baby eating, the pledge as the compromise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    We have an idea of what's been going on from reports.

    But still there's an impression in the West you can't say or do anything in case it upsets a Russian.

    What we have instead of is this boil the pot of Russians.

    The whole Russian state deserves to be left in isolation for 50 years. Embassies in Europe and around the world closed down. Russian ex pats give a portion of salary to Ukrainian state and people.

    And that still would be very light. They've taken thousands of lives while they still have theirs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭Polar101


    And how is Russia's grand offensive to (re)take Kupyansk going? Surely it couldn't have stalled, after all they had a hundred thousand "crack" troops and thousands of tanks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,713 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    At least the Nobel committee was guilted into coming to their senses:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Deub


    I take it that it is not going well for Russia. I find it amusing you commented almost daily at the end of July when there were reports Russia advanced 3km on the front somewhere but when Ukraine breaks through you consider this as “no significant progress whatsoever”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I'd agree with you - there needs to be severe consequences for Russian citizens abroad. And if they don't like it, back to the motherland to sort things out.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    An interview with a Ukrainian general confirms what we had seen in Twitter posts: Ukraine has broken the first line of defences and is currently expanding its reach.

    However what made me intrigued was the general said Russia put the majority of its effort and severity into that first line; the 2nd and 3rd nowhere near as substantial cos Russia never expected Ukraine to breach the 1st line. If that's true then by all means, things may accelerate soon.

    Ukrainian forces have decisively breached Russia’s first defensive line near Zaporizhzhia after weeks of painstaking mine clearance, and expect faster gains as they press the weaker second line, the general leading the southern counteroffensive has said.

    Brig Gen Oleksandr Tarnavskiy estimated Russia had devoted 60% of its time and resources into building the first defensive line and only 20% each into the second and third lines because Moscow had not expected Ukrainian forces to get through.

    ....

    There were hopes for similar rapid progress in the summer counteroffensive, which aims to push down towards the Sea of Azov, cutting off Russian troops in Kherson and occupied Crimea from other forces and severing their supply lines.

    Instead, it stalled for months, with casualties mounting but frontlines apparently static, feeding discontent and criticism in western capitals that had provided weapons and training.

    Tarnavskiy shrugged off that criticism, saying he preferred to judge a job when finished and thanking the UK and other allies for their support in training and weapons, including Challenger tanks that are already in the field. “When we started the counteroffensive ... we spent more time than we expected on de-mining the territories,” he admitted. “Unfortunately, the evacuation of the wounded was difficult for us. And this also complicated our advance.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The International Olympic Committee would want to take notice and change it's tune very soon. No Russian or Belarussian athletes, no matter what flag of convenience they want to hide under.



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