BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

I tend to agree with blanch152 as well - B spine + 37 frequency will not be sufficient for the quays to say Navan Road

Outside of that core section it should work. And I am factoring in the 4 min upgrade and additional seats delivered.

Well we have already reached those capacity issues. We were probably already there at the inception of BusConnects.

Luas to e.g. Blanch for example isn't realistic for many years, if ever. It would have to be an extension from Broombridge but that line south of Broadstone probably can't support the capacity required. It would also miss a whole chunk of the catchment area. Bus is the only realistic option short term for most of the communities long most of the spines and even with a new Luas line, would still require upgraded bus services regardless as buses are needed to make other journeys possible.

Metro would be overkill for most of the spines and can't be delivered fast enough in any case.

Yeah they should have kept going and delivered the 3 cross city BRT routes (would have been half the BusConnects spines anyway). They could have reorganised the bus network alongside that, adding orbital routes and the local routes, etc.

On a side note, the loadings for the W62 seem to have gone up a lot, while the initial part of the W4 is still a bit of a ghost bus at times. I'm sure it fills up a lot but I can see the frequencies being altered sometimes in the future.

Can be driven on an ordinary D licence as the articulated part is not fully detached.

There needs to be a way to walk or cycle from clondalkin in blanch, for people who are not Olympic athletes in training. A new bridge is needed that takes buses bikes and peds directly from LV to Blanch without diverting to the m50

I took a photo of a new bus stop marking on the Benamore Road in Newtownpark Avenue earlier this evening.

It is located at the boundary wall outside the Avoca Hockey Pitch/Hunter Theatre at Newpark Comprehensive School.

However; there is no TFI bus pole placed on it at the moment.

I wonder if this new bus stop marking is going to be used for the L25 bus route for BusConnects and also for the 7B/7D routes very soon. I would have a good feeling that the NTA are going to tell us that some of the bus stops for these routes along this road are going to be added or changed in advance before the L25 gets rolled out for service. It gives a good indication of what will happen next with this next phase of the project.

If any other person who posts here lives along the new L25 route or some of the current 75/A route. Have you seen any new bus stop markings placed on it recently?

Nutgrove Avenue there's a new stop for the S6. In UCD there's a new stop for the S4, same on Highfield Road in Rathgar. In Sandyford, there's a new stop for the S8. None of these stops have poles and signs yet, but they have a marked box for a bus stop on the road, as well as the raised bit of the footpath that you usually see at bus stops. No word yet on the supposed launch on September 24th yet, which I hope is still planned as the start date.

I wouldnt agree with that personally. Cities need green spaces and we can build new housing estates anywhere. Still plenty of empty/disused brownfield sites in the city and so much empty land in north country Dublin especially.

In time, it will all be built on. So lets start now, rather than ruining amenities for people that help make a city an attractive place to live in.

Usually a normal size European length bus is a 12 metre long, tri-axle 15 metres and articulated 18 metres. BRT would only mean a type of a very regular bus route or spine of routes supported with an additional infrastructure separating from the other traffic. BRT buses can be either a standard 18 metre articulated bus, adapted to the infrastructure (e.g. higher than usual if the platforms are high), but normally would be a higher capacity double articulated over 20 metres at least. I'm surprised if BRT were to be just 18 metres as it's just a standard articulated length so nothing special, just an infrastructure. Basically any spine could be converted into separate bus lane with articulated buses where possible to do so, but I wouldn't dare to call it BRT without the very high capacity vehicles.

We really should have been designing the spines around the HESS lighTram 25;

Agree. W4 catchment area is the Southwest is much better than the Northwest. Don't know if the terminal is going yo make a big difference. I'd want to see W4 going to Ongar past the Blanch SC, similar to how it given an alternative to C1 and C2 in Lucan to Liffey Valley SC. It could ease off the pressure from the future B1 and B2.

Is there any idea yet when the pedestrian bridge at Liffey Valley will be moved to link up to the new terminus? It's a horrible interchange at the moment - 6 minutes walking at top speed for me trying to make a bus, and horrible in the bad weather. Many of those I work with won't contemplate goving up the car unless it's improved.

God, that's so disappointing. It's complete nonsense to advertise it as an "interchange hub" between the C Spine and the other buses with the current setup. If moving the bridge is such an ordeal, why couldn't they have just built the new bus terminus further over where the existing bridge is.