No New Contract For Vera Pauw

30-08-2023 04:27AM #1

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0829/1402208-pauws-ireland-reign-ends-as-fai-opt-for-new-direction/

In a brief statement issued by Irish football's governing body, chief executive Jonathan Hill said: "On behalf of the Football Association of Ireland, we would like to thank Vera for her hard work and commitment over the past four years and wish her well for the future.

"In particular, I wish to acknowledge the role she played in leading Ireland to the FIFA Women's World Cup 2023 where our women’s team made history and inspired a nation.

"The future is bright for women and girls’ football and our focus now is building upon the work done by Vera and the historic achievements of our women’s team, which we see as a platform to support the next phase of the journey for the team, and more broadly the development of women and girls’ football in this country."

An extremely successful manager...

In a time when Irish sport is flourishing, what's going on?

Rubberchikken · 30-08-2023 04:33AM

Is it a case of no smoke without fire in the alleged 'weight shaming' mentioned in times past or the seemingly unhappy relationship between her and the team captain?

Or maybe it's just time for new blood.

30-08-2023 04:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045137#Comment_121045137

Irish soccer is an outlier;

Best rugby union team in the world

Brilliant results in athletics

What's going on?

Xander10 · 30-08-2023 04:51AM

Current affairs?

I think we are losing the plot here......

30-08-2023 07:05AM

I don't rate the ladies soccer but I was shouting for them all the same!

Too much hype surrounding it, a little like the GAA!

Glad though to see the end of this lady.

Vinnie222 · 30-08-2023 07:09AM

Madness.. Player power wins again. This Irish team is way over hyped

seamieyaboya · 30-08-2023 07:11AM

Who remembers Saipan 2006?

Roy Keane thought he was more a manager than Mick McCarthy.

Has the Irish team ever recovered since then?

May the same happen to this gang!

Time for a root-to-branch cleanout of the F.A.I.

Seth Brundle · 30-08-2023 07:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045200#Comment_121045200

Imagine the hype had the men's team gotten to the World Cup finals! The women's team did well and while they didn't get out of their group, they still made it to the finals!

Pablo Escobar · 30-08-2023 07:22AM

Ignoring the controversy, which in pro sport is hardly a surprising thing and barely a controversy imo, ignoring her great achievement in getting to the World Cup, and ignoring a clear rift with players, she made some bizarre and, in hindsight, awful calls in squad and team selection for the World Cup. Tactically she also got it wrong and in-game management was very very poor.

TruthEnforcer · 30-08-2023 07:37AM

The so called "Controversy" was was years ago ...and addressed by Vera which was accepted by the FAI before going to the WC.

As soon as Katie McCabe does her Roy Keane moment, the FAI start getting nervous.

Who's the Manager ? Vera Or Katie..

Well, they've made the decision ..let's see where it takes them

This Team did well at the WC, where they were well out of their league ...they were seeded too high in the competition..and it showed.

I suspect they'll struggle to qualify again anytime soon !

I suspect

30-08-2023 07:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045137#Comment_121045137

I’ve seen a few comments by male footballers who outlined their clubs unhappiness with their weight particularly when they return for pre season. Real Madrid apparently were very unhappy with Eden Hazard, MU with Romulu Lukaku. It seems strange to me that there would be an issue with a coach having a problem with over weight football players, but it does not surprise me that American players would have a problem being told that they had to run their fat assess around the pitch and eat less burgers. I couldn’t imagine the Dublin ladies team having an issue with being told they needed to improve their fitness if they wanted to perform at an elite level.

So I would say that “smoke” relating to fitness, is about as thick as a vape.

Fr Tod Umptious · 30-08-2023 08:21AM

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No one remembers Saipan 2006.

But everyone remembers Saipan 2002.

DownByTheGarden · 30-08-2023 08:38AM

So much drama with womens football that is nothing to do with the actual sport.

MacDanger · 30-08-2023 08:41AM

Not sure this will work out well for us, it all depends on who is selected to replace her.

I don't think the reason for not renewing can be anything related to the allegations from last Dec - once she was kept on after that, the FAI effectively accepted her version of events.

IMO, she was 100% right in the McCabe incident but maybe the poor communication between the two was sympomatic of their relationship and Pauw as manager has to take most of the responsibility for that.

Seth Brundle · 30-08-2023 08:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045385#Comment_121045385

Can you please provide some examples of this drama you are referring to or is this just some sexist crap?

30-08-2023 08:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045416#Comment_121045416

You haven’t seen a news item about ladies football since the WC final, have you?

TokTik · 30-08-2023 08:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058311421/no-new-contract-for-vera-pauw

Excellent news to wake up to. Ireland will be Pauws last ever job. Very toxic woman.

Vinnie222 · 30-08-2023 08:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045217#Comment_121045217

I couldn't care about the men's team. I'm just saying this team was over hype. Vera did an amazing job. Let's see how this team will get on now.

30-08-2023 08:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045444#Comment_121045444

Go on, let’s hear it.

TokTik · 30-08-2023 08:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045278#Comment_121045278

Except for the fact that the girl that Pauw called overweight, and encouraged to keep losing weight even when gaunt, ended up so thin and ill that she had to quit the game.

the.red.baron · 30-08-2023 08:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045138#Comment_121045138

i think Rugby is the outlier there bud

Its a sport with a tiny footprint

Thelonious Monk · 30-08-2023 09:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045385#Comment_121045385

Ha not like the men. The Premiership is a bloody soap opera, that's why I love it.

TokTik · 30-08-2023 09:01AM

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Encouraged the girl in US to get so gaunt she had to quit football.

Bullied Tyler Toland out of the Ireland setup. Publicly tried to shame her when her father phoned to find out what was going on (She was 16 and a minor so her father had every right to ask).

Deeply unlikeable person

DellyBelly · 30-08-2023 09:02AM

Strange ow they get rid of a successful manager while holding onto a guy that is totally out of his depth.....

30-08-2023 09:02AM

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If she was overweight to start with, you think a professional coach should say to a professional player that it is fine to be overweight and underperforming?

Get a grip, this is professional sport, not the local pub league, players are expected to be in peak athletic condition, not over weight. If that is your idea of toxic, then every professional club that doesn’t allow over weight players to be picked is toxic.

Cosmo Kramer · 30-08-2023 09:03AM

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She told certain players that they needed to be fitter so that the team would do better, and she didn't make the exact substitution in a game that Katie "Roy Keane" McCabe wanted, at the exact moment that Katie wanted it. She also tried to bring better players into the squad, so that the team would do better. You know, awful stuff like that...

Cosmo Kramer · 30-08-2023 09:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045465#Comment_121045465

He'll be gone by Christmas as well thankfully.

30-08-2023 09:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121045462#Comment_121045462

I have no idea what that is about, but this is the senior ladies international team, not a cresh.

Pep Guadiola is widely recognised as the best coach in world football, possibly one of the best ever, try Googling articles about what it is like to play for him, the intensity, the criticism that happens if he thinks your standards have fallen, how he discards players who don’t perform. And on topic, his treatment of current player Kalvin Phillips who the club believe did not manage his weight last season.

So again, if your career is as an elite sportsperson, the basic requirement should be that you present in the required physical condition when attending work and collecting a wage.

micks_address · 30-08-2023 09:13AM

i guess its not a surprise the contract wasn't renewed - it would be worse for the FAI if they renewed and more allegations or whatever turned up in the comings months/years.. it does seem like she has a very direct approach.. commentators attribute it to the 'dutch' way of being very direct... from a play perspective it did seem to look like what jack did with the lads back in the day, play to your strengths etc when the team maybe feel like they can do better than a defensive mind set.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0829/1402281-pauw-strengths-and-weaknesses-tapped-from-the-same-well/

30-08-2023 09:16AM

I think Vera will be snapped up elsewhere very quickly. We will struggle to get a replacement as good.

Boggles · 30-08-2023 09:17AM

She demanded the best and a level of elite professional.

She had to go, absolutely no room for that craic in Irish football.

Hopefully the next manager allows the players to pick the team.

No New Contract For Vera Pauw

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