Moon landing hoax

There is no doubt that it is excellent stuff. There is a clear resemblance between the two. 

Markus and others got confused because Tim was standing behind that screen being interviewed. You can see the two TV sets in the background where he stood on the ITV video (the red arrow location is the ITV interview).

The blue screen was set up ahead of him during the measurement video.

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@King Mob another off topic post deleted. You know the drill

HS

I appreciate that you want to learn about the conspiracy and this is exactly the kind of discussion we should all expect in this forum. I used to love everything related to space but as soon as I started realising it was all fabricated, it was rather upsetting and took a psychological leap to get my head around at first. I do not expect you to watch all the videos, I just put those there for supplementary material for anyone interested.

But some of the obstacles that are getting in your way are unusual I must say. This one that too many people would have to keep it a secret, just has to stop.

1.The footage is absolute garbage, always has been. Convincing to people who aren't really paying a whole lot of attention, but complete garbage to those who are. It does not take hundreds and thousands of people to shoot the footage they are showing us. In the 60s and 70s they had airforce hangars where they shot the footage. In the Akers video he spoke of trucks going in and out of the hangar with gravel - do you think they would have to tell the truck driver "Hey, just so you know, we are faking moonlanding footage, but please keep it a secret ok?" This would be ridiculous wouldn't it? Indeed there have been thousands of people involved in the deception, but 99% of them were completely unawares. Once the set was ready, it was the 10 or so men listed in the Akers video who actually acquired and edited the footage that would then go on to fool the world. And before you ask, yes they did indeed launch a rocket and yes it took a lot of people to achieve this feat. Were they privy to the deception? no. Where did the rocket go? It crashed in the ocean out of sight.

From the 90s onwards they have greenscreens and parabolic flights. The only proof that NASA have related to what they are doing in space is the footage they show us. All the deception lies in the footage. When you think about it, in 70 years, there is actually very little footage considering what they have achieved. And what they have is complete garbage really.

I don't see why shooting the footage would require hundreds or thousands of people but hijacking 4 planes at the same time and flying 3 of them into three buildings wouldn't? NASA = the Freemasons. The Freemasons have 2 million members. They acknowledge that they have secrets. How come one of the 2 million haven't revealed the secrets?

Don't get hung up on this.

2.You are getting the videos mixed up. I showed two seperate incidents/gaffes involving Tim Peake. One with the chromakey screen (Chromakey screen is simply a green screen with the grid on it to help them when editing the footage). There is no source video for that as it's not available to the public i.e. it's an unedited fraudulent video. You can clearly see there is a green ball suspended in the video in front of the chromakey screen. Some eagle eyed skeptic then went and found the matching footage that showed Tim Peak manipulating a floating water droplet (which was CGI'd in place of the green ball):

The background with the ESA and union jack flags, even the lighting on Tim Peake himself, are computationally added retrospectively. There is nothing bleeding edge about any of this stuff, it is literally the same technology the weather man uses.

The other video with Tim Peake was a blunder with the rigging. You can hear a snap sound and a slight drop of Peake's waist as he somersaults. This should not happen in zero gravity.

In another blunder, the video editor completely neglected to edit the harness off of one of the astronauts in the background. Easier to see in the video but here's a screenshot:

Source: https://youtu.be/x6XeELc3QH8?si=94j9sVPHNMdQONZ6&t=701 (@ 11.41)

You cannot see the wires because they are edited out using software. You can often see them reaching for something that isn't there. That is the wire that is edited out.

With regard to AKer's testimony, dismiss it all you like but it gives us a really unique perspective on the moonlanding hoax. I don't see why the son of an ex-military person would go on the record and taint his father's name as a windup.

No, lets not pretend. Explain what you think is going on in the footage, then I will address your other points. You can't take a completely unrelated topic just to distract away from the evidence I have provided.

Here's some more footage posted by the Indian fraudsters:

Incredible that people believe this is real. No wonder NASA got away with it for so long.

It's entirely related to the topic. It is central.

It undermines your entire line of argument which is based on a notion of space flight which is that it is not possible.

And yet we have visible, documented, established proof in the form of satellites and the ISS.

This is why your claims have no foundation or credibility. The theory falls at the first hurdle.

I'm actually a bit surprised by how many videos there are showing people photographing the ISS:

Some even seem to be in response to flat earthers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD-huRAnSb0

I wonder now if all of these youtubers are part of the conspiracy?

Watch the video I posted, that "blue screen" image is right there in the video and matches the item Tim is holding, you are 100% incorrect in your assertion there with incontrovertible proof.

And if you are 100% wrong on that long held belief, don't you think it's possible, nay probable, that you are wrong on everything else?

To summarise several years of this..

Conspiracy: All human powered space travel, moon landings, landings and probes to other planets, international space agencies, all satellites orbiting earth, the international space station and all science on the subject is "fake".

Source: One person

Evidence to date: None

That video was released 9 months after people pointed out the original gaffe. We would have to be naive to think NASA aren't monitoring the internet for people spotting their mistakes and releasing follow-ups for the "fact-checkers" to use in their articles.

So what about the other videos then with the harnesses either being pulled or not being edited out? No comment on this? We haven't even gotten onto the bubbles in space evidence.

For the lurkers (if there are any at all), the question of the ISS and GPS, despite this one being completely off topic to moonlanding/spaceflight hoax and despite me explaining in other threads in nauseating detail, I will explain it one last time here.

GPS

GPS or Global Positioning System is a proprietary technology owned by the US government. How it works is not in the public domain. Asking me to prove how GPS works would be like asking someone to prove how Coca Cola is made. There are many explanations out there that refer to satellites zooming around and aircraft and cars using radiowaves and line of site with the satellites to calculate their position but these are all bogus, even the ones on "official" sites. If GPS actually worked like this then there wouldn't be gigantic GPS blackout areas over every major ocean i.e. the place where you would need GPS the most. This is a well-known fact in aviation.

Having said this, I have a very good idea how it works. GPS is just a commercial form of Multilateration. Multilateration works using very precise time and many different fixed and moving positional coordinates. Anyone can contribute to this network by getting an ADSB and MLAT dongle, entering their exact lattitude/longitude and syncing their time with the internet. I am currently contributing to the multilateration network as we speak helping aircraft calculate their exact position. Airports have their own large scale navigation systems using dishes. Commercial multilateration (which is what I believe GPS to be) is basically a contract with every commercial phone network company to use their antennae to ping off and calculate position. To use GPS in your car or lawnmower etc. all you are doing is paying for the privilege to use ANY phone network antenna to calculate position. Sat Nav in your car can often run into the same issues planes do over oceans, if there is no antenna to ping off in remote areas you are going to lose your position. This wouldn't happen if there were magical satellites floating around indefinitely above us.

ISS

This is another thing (much like the moonlanding) that we are completely reliant on NASA telling us what it is. If NASA didn't say "this is a floating lab flying at 24000km/hr at 400km altitude, here's some footage to prove it" nobody would know what the hell it is. There is something, likely a drone that shoots across populated areas at a time specified by NASA. This is literally all anyone knows. Those videos of people showing 'ISS' shaped objects flying in front of the moon are fraudulent. Anyone can fake those.

Those unit square screens are standard for lots of things, you're simply wrong there, not admitting it says a lot about you and calls into question your reading of other evidence.

But, as said, why did russia fake a failure to the moon and India fake a success?

Thinking about it, lays even more problems for the theory.

If the GPS works as Markus says with the need for satellites, then surely they'd just do that method and then wouldn't require any deception at all. Doing it one way and claiming it works another, impossible way is completely pointless and add even more levels of secrecy and conspiracy. And it runs the risk of engineers and experts (or even not experts) figuring out GPS doesn't work like it should.

There's no benefit to claiming GPS uses satellites other than to try and trick people into thinking satellites exist. But we are also being told that this fails completely because it's obviously a trick.

This is why it's difficult to get any concrete answers about conspiracy theories. The more solid they become the more clear and overwhelming the contradictions and flaws become.

Also there's so many hobbyists that hack every device known to man... So extraordinary none of them picked up on this. 😂

Also bare in mind we've not actually be provided a single motivation behind any of these people actually being involved in such a conspiracy.

It's kinda the opposite of a murder mystery.

There's no motive, no means and no body...