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Administrative Officer (graduate) (general) 2022 civil service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 smithsburg


    Thanks a million, was pretty much sure but wording was a bit ambiguous



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Henman007


    I don’t even know where to start. I have huge sympathy for what you feel you went through with the ALLEGED bullying leveled at you, but to start definitively saying that people in other Departments have committed suicide over bullying!!?? These are issues that are often highly complex and the causes usually multi-layered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭countyireland12345


    It sounds like you had a tough time and it's great you got out and are doing somwthing else now. But you need to move on from what happened. The fact that you are posting in multiple forums, warning people against taking up jobs in the Civil Service suggests you have not moved on. It is not healthy and I'm sure you could be doing for productive things with your time. Stop letting it consume you and concentrate on you!



  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭exitstageleft


    I'm not against civil servants being allowed to engage with the WRC. To be honest, that seems both sensible and fair.

    My early point was just that I don't think Forsa is a good option for AOs. Obviously, it's just my own opinion, based on my experience.



  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭exitstageleft


    Avenger, it sounds like you went through an awful time. However, no one on this forum knows the full story (for obvious reasons) - just hints here and there. That means you're unlikely to get a full and fair hearing online.

    It does sound like you need to either let this stuff go and move on, or escalate it in the real world.

    I don't think the Secrets Act is really the roadblock you think it is, and I'm sure your pension credits are safe. However there are many reasons you may not wish raise things further - you mention future employment concerns and this could be a legitimate worry.

    At the same time, the healthier option might be to just let it go. There are assholes in every workplace and, unfortunately, some of them get into positions of power. They're still assholes and deep down they probably know it. But there is little value getting in arguments on forums and rehashing the whole thing over and over. Frequently belittling the civil service just raises the heckles of hardworking folk who don't (and can't) understand what you went through. It's not good for you or anyone else.

    I'd like to see you get some form of redress but, more importantly, that you'd be able to move on to more positive work experiences ahead.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil


    There seems to be significant movement on batch 5 now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23




  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Does anyone know approx how many are in batch 5?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,341 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Mod:

    @Avenger2020 your discussion has been moved to a seperate thread here; please don't bring it up on this thread again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil


    I have not yet been processed and in any case requested to stay at my unit and department, so I have no useful insights I am afraid.

    Not sure how many got through in total, though they may tell you if you email PAS.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Has anyone had any info from PAS recently?



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 mcg_philip


    I’ve just been assigned today to the Dept of the Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭countyireland12345


    I'd imagine that's a terrific Department to be joining - congrats! If you don't mind me asking, what date you were called for clearance? Just trying to judge when I might be assigned a Department.



  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭OKDublin


    That's great! I only been asked for my qualifications which I sent on. Nothing since. Did you get called for clearance in the last few weeks?

    I didn't get any clarification either that my qualifications have been accepted. Should I have got something to say that my qualification is acceptable?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil




  • Registered Users Posts: 31 mcg_philip


    Hi all. Just going to reply to everyone here. I was called for clearance on the 19th July. The fact I was assigned so soon may have something to do with the fact that I am a current civil servant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 mcg_philip


    Hey! I don’t think so. I think the fact that PAS haven’t replied with queries regarding your qualifications means they are good enough



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Can anyone advise how long after their interview and presentation did they receive feedback on pass/ fail?



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil


    Easier to determine it based on when your batch finished rather than from your specific interview date. They usually try to post results 1-2 weeks after the entire batch has been interviewed. (Mine was one week). They will have indirectly provided you with the duration of the batch of interviews when you were given the names (and dates!) of the different interviewers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Thanks very much! It's been 8 days since my interview and 7 days since the last interview. Was hoping for a result today, but will likely have to wait until next week. Very eager haha :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭dublin_Horse


    Hi All.

    Congratulations to those who have been succrssful. Can I ask for those who started, is there much working from home or how many days minimum are you in the office?



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil


    Aw, nothing worse than refreshing email every 15 mins for an update! Currently doing similar for clearance. Hope you get some good news soon!



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Have a look at the thread below. There is a huge variety based on Department and section within Departments.


    Civil Service - Blended Working Survey — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭countyireland12345


    Has anyone ever been successful in two competitions and if yes, how have they managed it? I've been successful in the AO General and AO Specialist competitions. Should I proceed with clearance for both and just take the first that actually results in an assignment/start date/contract? As I see it, there is risk to not doing so, as I currently have no job offer, conditional or unconditional, and either could be pulled right up until I actually sign a contract. But I also don't want to upset PAS/Departments.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    Hi everyone,

    I have a couple of questions

    1) I just got my results from the batch 6 interviews and I have placed between 10-20 on the OOM. Can anyone advise on how long it will take to be placed in a department from today? I'm unsure of whether I should hand in my notice at work just yet.

    Thank you, and congrats to all who got this far! :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Definitely don't hand in notice yet. You will need to do clearance and references etc. If you're an existing CS this will be quicker but it could be 3 to 12 weeks possibly. You wouldn't know. They're not finished batch 5 yet. All of them would need be placed and those ahead of you in batch 6. You can let PAS know you need to give current employer X amount notice once you're given your department placement. They're generally fine with that



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Yes go through all steps for everything. Flag to them you've been successful in both and are keen to commence a role where they have a vacancy. Highlight expression of interest if you have one. It could still be some time before you're offered placement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Anyone have any idea where PAS are at in terms of Batch 5?


    I've placed high enough in batch 6, but looking to stay in current department so just curious about where they are and where most are being appointed to



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99




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  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭OKDublin


    It could be a long time yet. From what I gather from above it has taken 2 months to get to early 20s in batch 5. I don't know how many there are in Batch 5. If you are not currently a civil servant then the clearance could take several weeks and then when you get placed they may say they don't want you to start for another month.



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Does anyone know where people in batch 5 are being placed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    I have another quick question:

    I submitted my university transcripts to clearance last week, and I know the closing date is today. They emailed me to tell me they had received them and would be reviewing them and I haven't heard anything since. Just a bit worried that maybe clearance need additional documents from me and would like to send them today if needed before the cut off point, are transcripts sufficient enough for the qualification check?

    Also, does anyone know where they are with batch 5 and when they might move onto batch 6?

    Thank you!



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭vatsie76


    Hi , any idea on OOM being called for interview ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Anyone aware of where recent placements have been? Dept of an Taoiseach was the last I heard



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Wolfskuil


    I think they will request further info if what you have supplied is not deemed sufficient. In my case I needed to provide an English version of a document.

    I believe they are up to the early 30s in 5 anyway, but I am not sure what that means...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Batch 6 clearance has started



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭countyireland12345


    Absolutely because I think there is a lot of demand for AOs and a new competition hasn’t been announced yet. Plus, even if hiring stopped, you will have got the best ‘mock’ interview experience for next time or for another campaign.



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Someone started in Education this week from batch 6 it appears.


    Any indication of other departments being placed



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    Thanks for keeping us up to date, great to hear they have moved onto batch 6!



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    Just an update, I’m in the mid 10’s in batch 6 and I’ve just been called for clearance :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭vatsie76


    Hi , has the OOM reached near 400’s ? Any idea folks ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    I was in the 380's and got called or interviews for batch 6, I would imagine batch 7 is in the 400's :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭CMR23


    Can anyone shed light on the Department people are being placed in



  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭aaron5250


    How often are AO comps?



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭vatsie76


    I emailed PAS. AO comp is annual and there will be a new one in coming months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    Can anyone give an indication on how long clearance normally takes? I got invited for clearance on the 23rd of August, submitted everything on the 24th of August, and my Garda clearance came back on the 5th of September. Still haven’t heard about my placement, getting a bit worried!



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 rose1010101


    Anyone know where they are with clearance in relation to Batch 6?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kilmc99


    I’m in the mid 10’s in batch 6 and I got called for clearance on the 23d of August



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Starby123


    Hi, not sure if this is the correct thread but would appreciate any advice on the following - I have a Level 8 Business Mgt Degree (specialism HR) & Post Grad Level 9 Employment Law. I have completed additional HR courses. I applied for the A0 Graduate Competition (HR Stream), passed the online tests; got called to interview; passed the presentation/interview, and was awarded a high place on the panel. I was then asked to submit my qualifications and have since been told my studies do not meet the qualifying criteria and was removed from the competition. Has this happened to anyone on here or would you have any advice?



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 rose1010101


    Did you apply for the general stream as well as the HR stream?



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